Discussions with Rome

Discussions with Rome - Updated

JMJ

As most people who follow the SSPX would know, there were some meetings between Cardinal Mueller, Cardinal Brandmueller, and Bishop Schneider at various houses of the SSPX.

Aside from that there has been little reported on progress or lack thereof in the media.

Cardinal Mueller has given an interview in which he had the following to say (Source: Rorate Caeli):

Exclusive: Cardinal Müller in an interview with katholisch.de [excerpt]
Question: It has been strikingly quiet recently regarding the Society of Saint Pius X. Are the attempts to find an agreement suspended or postponed?
Mueller: Regarding this question, there is no substantial new development. The Holy Father wishes that we keep trying: “con tenacia e pazienza” – “with decisiveness and patience.” The precondition for a full reconciliation is the signing of a doctrinal preamble in order to guarantee a full agreement in the essential questions of the Faith. In the past months, there were encounters of different ways which are meant to strengthen the mutual trust.
[Translation kindly provided by Maike Hickson.]

We find two interesting aspects to this response.

The first of which is that the word 'reconciliation' is used (assuming a correct translation), the 'full communion' phrase remains absent.

The second of which is "guarantee a full agreement in the essential questions of the Faith". I really want to know where the SSPX has deviated on "essential questions of the Faith". Perhaps, when this 'question' is settled, it will settle the 'question' for the rest of the Church.

While feverish minds will jump to a large number of conclusions, I propose the following conclusions that are based on fact:

There is currently no agreement between Rome and the SSPX.
Assuming the 'preamble' mentioned is the same one that Bishop Fellay refused to sign in 2012, the discussions between Rome and the SSPX are at an impasse.

P^3

Updated:

Angelqueen had a little more information:

Regarding talks with the SSPX, the cardinal said there are no “major updates,” but the talks continue. He said that Pope Francis has directed the CDF to continue, with “tenacity and patience,” to seek ways to reconcile the traditionalist group with the Holy See.

Question: It has been strikingly quiet recently regarding the Society of Saint Pius X. Are the attempts to find an agreement suspended or postponed?

Mueller: Regarding this question, there is no substantial new development. The Holy Father wishes that we keep trying: “con tenacia e pazienza” – “with decisiveness and patience.” The precondition for a full reconciliation is the signing of a doctrinal preamble in order to guarantee a full agreement in the essential questions of the Faith. In the past months, there were encounters of different ways which are meant to strengthen the mutual trust. – Translation by Maike Hickson of only that question from the Katholisch.de interview at Rorate Caeli

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