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What are the extents and limits of the Commandment to Honour Thy Father and Thy Mother? - Update 2

 + JMJ For reference attached is a table outlining the logical summaries of the authors cited in the  article on Honouring Thy Father and Mother that I posted last year (link) .  P^3   ID Source Year Excerpt Summary Logical Formula 1 Handbook of Moral Theology – Prummer 1955 There are two limits to be placed to the obedience due to parents even in lawful matters: I) one of duration, in so far as the duty ceases once the child after attaining his majority or emancipation begins to live away from the parental home; b) in the choice of a state of life, and therefore even minors are free to choose in this matter and parents commit sin by compelling their children to embrace any particular state of life. Obedience due to parents Ceases once the ...

Obedience: Voris vs Tradical

 + JMJ Introduction Michael Voris gave a thirty minute speech at the Strength and Honor conference ( link to vid )  in August 2023 (Youtube Transcript below).   When shown this video, my first thought was that he repeats himself over and over again.   My second thought was that he made an clear error saying that Pontius Pilate sin was the greatest. Mistake, Our Lord Himself stated that the sin of those who turned Him over to Pilate was greater.  My third thought was they he was espousing Jesuit blind obedience by staying that an order within the jurisdiction of a superior must be obeyed. Going from memory he seemed to imply that an order within the jurisdiction of the superior could not be sinful. Ergo any legitimate command must be obeyed. One thing that Voris got completely right is that the moral character of an individual in the office does not impact the legitimacy of their commands in the execution of that office. I've discussed this elsewhere re...

What are the extents and limits of the Commandment to Honour Thy Father and Thy Mother? - Update 1

+ JMJ Update can be found at the end of the post.     Introduction What are the extents and limits of the Commandment to Honour Thy Father and Thy Mother? As children get older and they become adults, there is bound to be a transition in the relationship between themselves and their parents.   While some may experience this earlier in the teenage years, from a moral point of view, the real onset where it matters is when they reach adulthood. Understanding the context and obligations in the two states (emancipated vs unemancipated) is probably going to be an important factor in how smoothly the transition occurs. I’m going to undertake this study using three four resources: Catechism of the Council of Trent (aka The Roman Catechism) – ~1562 Translation 1923 based on translations from 1902, 1907 and 1914 Handbook of Moral Theology (Fr. Dominc Prummer OP) – 1955 Moral Theology (Frs. McHugh and Callan) – 1958  Moral Theology (Fr. Heribert...

Echoes of Traditionis Custodes: Obedience to What?

 + JMJ  So it has been a few weeks since TC was unleashed upon a suspecting Church and a few observations can now be made. First, there is to confusion between the Teaching Authority of the Church (Magisterium) and the Legislative Authority.  I point this out because of this phrase from the Canadian Military Ordinariate: We must also understand that this is not a passing occurrence. This motu proprio already carries with it the full weight of the Magisterium , being a canonically binding edict. However, it is also stated in the document that it “be published in the official Commentary of the Holy See, Acta Apostolicae Sedis [AAS; Acts of the Apostolic See].” The AAS is irreformable and binding and is an expression of the constant and universal Magisterium. (W. Wright) Source Roman Catholic Military Ordinariate  So let's get some clarity on this: Catholic Dictionary MAGISTERIUM Definition The Church's teaching authority, vest...

Why I am Wary of So Called 'Conservative' and Alternative News Sources - Part II (Wherein Tradical answers Murrax's questions)

+ JMJ In part I (link) , Murrax asked a couple of questions - the original can be seen at the link -but I have also mapped it out below. Murrax, please chime in if I didn't catch the gist of the question.  So, my first thought is this seems to breakdown into a core question: Must Catholics obey civil laws? This is something that I have wanted to dig into for sometime, but alas I don't have time to do a lot of research at this time - so I'll be going on my own reasoning and previous research. Starting off with St. Thomas we have the following high level principles: Is the order within their sphere of authority? Yes  / No Does the order involve immediate or proximate sin? Yes / No  This is pretty simple and the question that is usually asked is what defines the sphere of authority?  I have been told that for Catholic religious leaders the sphere of authority is largely defined by the rule of the organization. Here's what I found: So the basic conditions are: Was it ma...

After the Crisis (Pandemic) - Obedience Due to Superiors

+ JMJ So ... what will be the outcome of the Pandemic? Right now I'm thinking about the 'anti-mask' demonstrations and general attitude towards government authority.   The obedience due to government authority is no less than that to religious superiors.   At this point, I expect a number of people are screaming "Social Kingship of Christ".      As I've mentioned before, you can't work for the Social Kingship of Christ by disobeying legitimate orders from secular and religious leaders.   If you do, then you are building on sand.   What is scariest is that the 'anti-maskers' don't realise that they are protesting in vain because they are doing just what the left were doing. Now that the 'right' is learning from the 'left', I wonder what will happen when the next emergency is worse than COVID-19. P^3

Imitation of Christ Book III Chapter 49 The Desire of Eternal Life

+ JMJ After a few months, I finally found my copy of the Imitation of Christ and read a passage after my morning prayers . This is the passage that I read on flipping open the tome: And because being under authority thou darest not resist the higher power, therefore thou art apt to think it hard to walk at the beck of another, and wholly to give up thy own sentiments. (Confraternity 1982 version quoted. Online version The Imitation of Christ , by Thomas a Kempis, tr. by William Benham [1886], at sacred-texts.com Bk3 Ch49 ) ... But consider, son, the fruit of these labors, how quickly they will end, and their exceeding great reward, and thou wilt not be troubled at them, but strongly comforted in thy suffering. ( Heb VI. 18 ) For Reference: Heb VI 18: That by two immutable things, in which it is impossible for God to lie, we may have the strongest comfort, who have fled for refuge to hold fast the hope set before us. ( source ) I've known and know priests...

Refresher on Catholic Obedience

+ JMJ I believe that the root of the crisis of the Catholic Church is disobedience to some form of authority. The Protestants revolted against the Pope and the Church - denying Dogmas and casting aside much of the 'artefacts' of the Catholic Faith.  All they have left are vestiges. The modernists revolted against the Teaching Authority of the Catholic Church, undermining Divine Revelation and as a result denied core Dogmas of the Catholic Faith.  This revolt emerged in full light at the Second Vatican Council and we've been suffering its effects every since! The Popes, starting even under Pius XII gave way to innovations that, as a pebble starts an avalanche, ended in a revolt against the authority of Tradition in the Catholic Church. With the erosion of the authority of the Church, anarchy soon followed and the bastions against heresy were razed to the ground. This is the phase in which we now strive to save our souls. Re-establishing Catholic Obedience in t...

The 'Resistance' and Catholic Obedience (Updated)

+ JMJ It would appear that my articles on obedience have been noticed by some members of the 'resistance' and prompted a reply  by Fr. Edward MacDonald, or one of his followers. It was posted on a resistance blog ... here's some key excerpts: "The Catholic principle is laid out as follows: The person issuing the command is in a position of authority over the inferior The command is within the scope of the superior's authority The command does not require the inferior to sin, either in the immediate or proximate case. If the above conditions are met then the person has an obligation to obey. Disobedience in this case is sinful. Whereas if #3 is lacking (sinful command) then the person has an obligation to disobey Whereas if #1 or #2 is lacking the person practice greater virtue in obeying a command that is not obligatory. This is from a different article rather than the full series on St. Thomas.  I've added a link at the end of this post. ...

Being Trustworthy vs Trusting Someone

+ JMJ Questions: Is Trust Subjective? Is being Trustworthy objective? Does a Superior have to be trustworthy? I previously discussed whether I trust someone is subjective or objective in this article .  The answer is simply yes because 'subjective' refers to a personal perspective, feeling or opinion. My personal perspective on whether I decide to trust (place confidence in ...) another person. Now whether a person is trustworthy is another question altogether: Trustworthy: worthy of confidence, able to be relied on as honest or truthful. Synonyms: reliable , dependable , honest , honorable , upright , principled , true , truthful , as good as one's word, ethical , virtuous , incorruptible , unimpeachable , above suspicion; responsible , sensible , levelheaded ; loyal , faithful , staunch , steadfast , trusty ; safe , sound , reputable , discreet . Whether a person is trustworthy is another question altogether and this could be based in facts ...