Blog for Dallas Area Catholics - CMTV / Michael Voris

JMJ

Since we're on the topic, Tantum has a good post here on the topic of CMTV and Michael Voris. I tried to post a comment but I had issues with my Wordpress account - so just in case here's the comment I meant to leave.

P^3

Hi Tantum et al,
I see two aspects to this ‘crisis’ within CMTV.
The first is that they are holding two contradictory principles: No criticism of the Bishop of Rome – Head of the College of Bishops, Criticism of any and all members of the College of Bishops – except its head.
Humans are adaptable, but when confronted with this type of contradiction they will seek to resolve it by changing the perception of the action.
Hence CMTV’s recent condemnation of a long held SSPX position, that they themselves substantively held in 2010.
The second is CMTV’s anger and lashing out at the SSPX and other Traditionalists (Remnant, CFNEWS etc). Because these groups do not reinforce CMTV’s perception of the situation and because Pope Francis daily undermines that perception – CMTV is trying to silence all those who poke pins at their bubble.
As an example, the reasons given for banning people who do not agree with their position are incredible. The owner of Suscipedomine was banned for this comment:
“… Keep grinding that axe, Church “Militant” …”
From my perspective (having been SSPX Trad for 30+ years), CMTV and Michael Voris are just one more casualty.
Pray for them and pray for us the we aren’t next.
P^3

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Hermeneutic of the Hermeneutic of Continuity - sspx.org

+ JMJ Since I'm looking at the 'four things', I thought this article would be good. Unfortunately, with the new SSPX.org website, I've been unable to locate the original article. This is a copy the I emailed to myself. This is an article that, I believe, was written in response to a conference given by Msgr. Pozzo. P^3

Rome and the SSPX - Version 2026 Part 4 - The Mass (Updated with Postscript)

+ JMJ Introduction "I don’t understand why they are so afraid of this Mass!!!" A Conservative Catholic priest spoke these words to me one evening in his parich parking lot in 2011, mere days before Pope Benedict XVI issued his follow up to Summorum Pontificum ( 2007-07-07 Motu Proprio , Letter to Bishops , ), Universae Ecclesiae ( 2011-04-30 Motu Proprio , Note ). The people who were afraid that night were bishops. This conservative priest had started a project a year or so earlier – very simply a Perpetual Eucharistic Adoration chapel. Earlier that evening I had visited this chapel with some friends and ended up in a conversation with the priest after everyone had left. Word reached the bishops palace after the completion of the chapel and the priest received a phone call and visit from his local ordinary. My impression (this being now ~15 years ago) was that he was nervous about how the visit would proceed. The bishop came, made a visit to OLJC in the Blessed Sacrament and ...

SSPX and the Resistance - A Comparison Of Ecclesiology

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Rome,the SSPX and this time of Crisis - Updated

+ JMJ Obviously there's lots of events right now. First we have the April 1st - I almost thought it was April Fools - meeting between Pope Francis and Bishop Fellay. Nothing really news worthy as this is a natural progression as Rome appears to be considering fulfilling Archbishop Lefebvre's wish to 'accept us as we are'. Second we have the April 8th publication of what will be a verbose exhortation of the Synod of the Family. I'm willing to bet that the Pope will give with one hand (unilateral regularization of SSPX) and take with the other (ambiguous document that opens the flood gates of sin further). Much to pray for. P^3

De Fide Teachings of the Catholic Church (Updated)

+ JMJ Update: I was reviewing Ott's work directly and noted that some of the Teachings are De Fide while others are different levels of authority (such as Sent Certa etc). So please refer to Ott for the actual classification). Posts Listing the Dogmas of the Catholic Church Dogmas of the Catholic Faith (de fide) - Expanded Listing: Answer for Reader (Oct 2022) Updated List of Teachings of the Catholic Church (Oct 2021) *** Dogmas of the Catholic Faith (Oct 2015) De Fide teaching of the Catholic Church (Apr 2013) *** Latest version

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