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What Rome Expects of the Society of Pius X -- Interview of Archbishop Guido Pozzo - Zenit (h/t: Eponymous Flower)

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The German edition of Zenit has an interview by Archbishop Pozzo discussing the framework for a canonical regularization of the SSPX.

So this appears to be a more indepth revelation that the La Croix interview (which, sadly, I have not read) - in that some key conditions are laid out.

I see that the Google Translation of the last paragraph may have failed me when compared with the La Croix interview - but I will leave it as is for now.

P^3

H/T: Eponymous Flower
Source: Zenit




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Lefebvriani: the fixed points for the canonical recognition
The secretary of the Pontifical Commission "Ecclesia Dei", Msgr. Pozzo, commenting on the meeting between Pope Francis and Msgr. Fellay

April 11 2016LUCA MARCOLIVIOPAPST FRANCIS, SECOND VATICAN COUNCIL

The meeting took place two weeks ago between Pope Francis and the Superior General of the Society of St. Pius X, Msgr. Bernard Fellay, although had a private and non-official nature, but constitutes a further step forward in the rapprochement between Rome and Ecône (seat of Fraternity, in the swiss canton of Valais). ZENIT led about a conversation with the secretary of the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei, Msgr. Guido Pozzo.

Excellence, the meeting between Msgr. Fellay and the Holy Father as progress in the talks may be referred to with respect to the full communion?

Monsignor Guido Pozzo.. The Monsignor Fellay granted by the Holy Father audience was of private, unofficial nature. Certainly, one can say that they beneficially fits into the context of the path of the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Pius X in the direction of a full reconciliation that will take place with the canonical recognition of the institute, in my opinion. At this moment, especially the contribution to an ever more trusting and respectful air of importance to overcome induration and distrust, which can indeed be understood with the distance of many years and fractures, however, we want to dispel at this stage, to the reasons to bring unity and promote the integrity of the Catholic faith and the church's tradition reappear.

What are the required by the Brotherhood basic requirements for full communion with the Church of Rome?

Monsignor Guido Pozzo. Above all, it is important to reaffirm that life as Catholics with the Roman Pontiff, the head of the united with him episcopal college, requires the approval of the creed, the sacramental bond and hierarchical communion. The doctrinal statement which is subordinated to the approval of the SSPX at the appropriate moment, will include this essential and necessary points.
What can be recovered from the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Pius X with respect to the second Vatican Council and its acceptance?

Monsignor Guido Pozzo. Regarding the 2nd Vatican Council, the previous in the discussions of recent years has led the way to a substantial clarification: The 2nd Vatican Council can only in the context of the entire tradition of the Church and their constant Magisterium adequately be understood. The contained in the documents of the second Vatican Council declarations of truth of faith and the security of Catholic doctrine to be adopted depending on the required level of support. The decrees or statements (Unitatis Redintegratio, Nostra Aetate, Dignitatis Humanae) contain directives for the pastoral action or orientations and recommendations or practical-pastoral Exhort. These form an article for discussion, wells, higher clarification to avoid any Missverstände and contradictions, that we know are currently widespread in the church even after the canonical recognition.

More generally, we can say that the Brotherhood is asked to acknowledge that only the Magisterium of the Church the preservation, defense and interpretation of the deposit of faith entrusted (cf.. Pius XII. encyclical Humani Generis) and the magisterium is not a higher position than the word of God, but this is used by only the Transferred taught (Dei Verbum 10).

The supreme magisterium is itself the authentic interpreter also the previous texts of the Magisterium - including those of the 2nd Vatican Council - in the light of the eternal tradition that continues in the church with the help of the Holy Spirit; not with an opposing novelty, but with an improved understanding of the deposit of faith "always in the same doctrine, the same sense and in the same tradition," according to the teaching of the first Vatican Council, Dei Filius 4 and the 2nd Vatican Council, Dei Verbum. 8

In my view, constitute a fixed point this explanation for the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Pius X. The objections raised by the Brotherhood of difficulty in the relationship between church and state and freedom of religion, practice of ecumenism and dialogue with non-Christian religions, and some aspects of the reform of the liturgy and its concrete application, remain to be discussed and clarified points. [However, they represent an obstacle to the canonical and legal recognition of the Brotherhood.] Tradicat: They are not an obstacle for the canonical and legal recognition of the brotherhood.

German Original




Lefebvrianer: die Fixpunkte für die kanonische Anerkennung

Der Sekretär der Päpstlichen Kommission „Ecclesia Dei“, Msgr. Pozzo, kommentiert die Begegnung zwischen Papst Franziskus und Msgr. Fellay

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Ecône / Wikimedia Commons - Moumine, Moumine
Die vor zwei Wochen erfolgte Begegnung zwischen Papst Franziskus und dem Generaloberen der Priesterbruderschaft St. Pius X., Msgr. Bernard Fellay, hatte zwar einen privaten und nicht offiziellen Charakter, bildet jedoch einen weiteren Schritt vorwärts in der Wiederannäherung zwischen Rom und Ecône (Sitz der Priesterbruderschaft, im schweizer Kanton Wallis). ZENIT führte darüber ein Gespräch mit dem Sekretär der Päpstlichen Kommission Ecclesia Dei, Msgr. Guido Pozzo.
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Exzellenz, kann die Begegnung zwischen Msgr. Fellay und dem Heiligen Vater als Fortschritt in den Gesprächen bezüglich der vollen Gemeinschaft bezeichnet werden?
Msgr. Guido Pozzo: Die Msgr. Fellay vom Heiligen Vater gewährte Audienz war von privater, inoffizieller Natur. Sicherlich kann man meines Erachtens sagen, dass sie sich nutzbringend in den Kontext des Weges der Priesterbruderschaft Sankt Pius X. in Richtung einer vollen Versöhnung einfügt, die mit der kanonischen Anerkennung des Institutes erfolgen wird. In diesem Moment ist vor allem der Beitrag zu einem immer vertrauensvolleren und respektvolleren Klima von Bedeutung, um Verhärtungen und Misstrauen zu überwinden, die mit dem Abstand von vielen Jahren und Brüchen zwar verständlich sein können, wir in dieser Phase jedoch zerstreuen wollen, um die Gründe der Einheit und der Förderung der Integrität des katholischen Glaubens und der kirchlichen Tradition wieder zum Vorschein zu bringen.
Welche sind die von der Bruderschaft geforderten Grundvoraussetzungen für die volle Gemeinschaft mit der Kirche von Rom?
Msgr. Guido Pozzo: Vor allen Dingen gilt es zu bekräftigen, dass das Leben als Katholiken die Zustimmung zum Glaubensbekenntnis, die sakramentale Bindung und die hierarchische Gemeinschaft mit dem römischen Papst, dem Oberhaupt des mit ihm vereinten Bischofskollegiums, erfordert. Die doktrinäre Erklärung, die der Zustimmung der Piusbruderschaft im geeigneten Moment unterstellt wird, wird diese wesentlichen und notwendigen Punkte beinhalten.
Was kann von der Priesterbruderschaft Sankt Pius X. bezüglich des 2. Vatikanischen Konzils und dessen Akzeptanz verlangt werden?
Msgr. Guido Pozzo: Was das 2. Vatikanische Konzil betrifft, hat der in den Gesprächen der letzten Jahre gegangene Weg zu einer wesentlichen Klärung geführt: Das 2. Vatikanische Konzil kann nur im Kontext der gesamten Tradition der Kirche und deren ständigem Lehramt in angemessener Weise verstanden werden. Die in den Dokumenten des 2. Vatikanischen Konzils enthaltenen Erklärungen der Glaubenswahrheit und der Sicherheit der katholischen Lehre müssen je nach dem erforderten Zustimmungsgrad angenommen werden. Die Dekrete oder Erklärungen (Unitatis Redintegratio, Nostra Aetate, Dignitatis Humanae) enthalten Direktiven für die pastorale Aktion oder Orientierungen und Empfehlungen oder praktisch-pastorale Exhortationen. Diese bilden auch nach der kanonischen Anerkennung einen Gegenstand für Diskussionen, Vertiefungen, höherer Präzisierung zur Vermeidung jeglicher Missverstände und Widersprüche, die unseres Wissens gegenwärtig im kirchlichen Bereich verbreitet sind.
Allgemeiner gesprochen können wir sagen, dass die Bruderschaft darum gebeten wird anzuerkennen, dass nur dem Lehramt der Kirche die Wahrung, Verteidigung und Interpretation des Depositum fidei anvertraut ist (vgl. Pius XII. Enzyklika Humani Generis) und das kirchliche Lehramt nicht höher steht als das Wort Gottes, sondern diesem dient, indem nur das Übermittelte gelehrt wird (Dei Verbum 10). Das oberste Lehramt ist seinerseits der authentische Interpret auch der vorangegangenen Texte des Lehramtes – inklusive jener des 2. Vatikanischen Konzils – im Licht der ewigen Tradition, die sich in der Kirche mit der Hilfe des Heiligen Geistes fortsetzt; nicht mit einer gegensätzlichen Neuheit, sondern mit einem verbesserten Verständnis des Depositum fidei „stets in der gleichen Lehre, im gleichen Sinn und in der gleichen Tradition“, gemäß der Lehre des 1. Vatikanischen Konzils, Dei Filius 4 und des 2. Vatikanischen Konzils, Dei Verbum 8.
Meines Erachtens kann diese Erklärung auch für die Priesterbruderschaft Sankt Pius X. einen Fixpunkt darstellen. Die von der Bruderschaft vorgebrachten Schwierigkeiten bezüglich der Beziehung zwischen Staat und Kirche und der Religionsfreiheit, der Praxis der Ökumene und dem Dialog mit den nichtchristlichen Religionen und einiger Aspekte der Reform der Liturgie und deren konkreter Anwendung, bleiben zu diskutierende und zu klärende Punkte. Sie stellen jedoch kein Hindernis für die kanonische und rechtliche Anerkennung der Bruderschaft dar.

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