Synod Pre-Game Show VI: The Buckler of Patience

JMJ

I suspect that the Synod will be an occasion for scandal amongst the faithful. Many will perhaps suspect that Pope Francis really isn't Pope after all.

Outlined in the list below are the various sedevacantist opinions that I have encountered over the past decades. Opposed to each is the doctrine that they contradict and fallacies embedded within them.

For more detailed analysis and articles, please see the sedevacantist, heresy and infallibility articles.

Sedevacantist Conclusion (See of Peter is vacant)

Post-Conciliar Popes were heretics before election, heretics cannot be elected to the See of Peter

Contradicts doctrine of dogmatic fact: art1, art2, art3
Cum Ex Apostolis no longer in force - see cum ex apostolatus and loss of office

Pope fell into heresy after election

There are a number of problems with this 'conclusion'. The first of which is the understanding of heresy. The second is the provision of a verifiable act of heresy that is incontrovertible (explicity). The third is that the Authority of the Church has declared / acknowledged that the Pope has defected from the Faith.

Second Vatican Council explicitly taught heresy. Therefore the Pope who approved it cannot have been valid

Contradicts the indefectibility of the Church: Ott pg296
Generally the understanding of 'heresy' is incorrect: Heresy plain and not so simple

The Novus Ordo Missae is heretical, therefore the Pope who ...

Contradicts the indefectibility of the Church: Catholic Principles, Doctrine, and Dogma - Anchors for a Church Caught in a Tempest
Infallibility of the Church extends to disciplinary law, but not in the same manner: Does Churchs Infallibility extend to disciplinary law?
Contradicts indefectibility: Ott pg296
While ambiguous, the promulgated rite does not contain anything explicitly heretical.

The Conciliar Church is not the Catholic Church

If by the 'Conciliar Church' it is meant that the Church under the present pontiff (Francis at this writing) is not the Catholic Church - where is the organization with the Four Marks? Otherwise it contradicts indefectibility: Ott pg296
Article on the Four Marks drawing on the Catechism of the Council of Trent and Ott.

These are definitely trying times (ie the last 50+ years) for faithful Catholics.

However, it is crucial to use Catholic principles as a guide in making decisions centred on responding to the scandalous actions of the hierarchy and other Catholics.

Otherwise, we may become that which we strive against.

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Prayer

Penance

Patience

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