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Will Novelties Never Cease? Protestant Tony Palmer Receives Catholic Requiem Mass - Catholic Family News

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I almost feel like adding another 'label' to categorize all the Pope Francis novelties: Bergolio Era.

But that would be redundant as the idiosyncrasies of Pope Francis are merely a symptom or artifact of the underlying cultural change that has been in progress since the Second Vatican Council.

The latest novelty is twofold: 
  1. Tony Palmer (RIP) had a public Catholic requiem Mass said for him
  2. It was said as if he were a Bishop of the Catholic Church
There are a few oddities that have come out about Mr. Palmer as a result of his untimely death.
  1. Pope Francis advised him not to convert
  2. His wife and children are Catholic (apparently led back into the Church by Tony which is curious-er and curious-er since he wouldn't lead anyone into the Church or something to that effect ... I'll need to check that reference or video)
  3. The requiem took place in a Catholic Church
  4. He was buried in a Catholic cemetery
When Pope Francis said to the SSPX that they are Catholic, I wonder if he meant it in the same manner that he seems to believe the Tony Palmer was Bishop and Catholic.

Now this is truly a confusing situation.

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  1. GeremiaAugust 10, 2014 at 10:12 PM

    So, he violated these canons from the '83 Code:

    Can. 1184 §1. Unless they gave some signs of repentance before death, the following must be deprived of ecclesiastical funerals:

    1/ notorious apostates, heretics, and schismatics;

    2/ those who chose the cremation of their bodies for reasons contrary to Christian faith;

    3/ other manifest sinners who cannot be granted ecclesiastical funerals without public scandal of the faithful.

    §2. If any doubt occurs, the local ordinary is to be consulted, and his judgment must be followed.

    Can. 1185 Any funeral Mass must also be denied a person who is excluded from ecclesiastical funerals.

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    1. TradicalAugust 11, 2014 at 8:25 AM

      He apparently wanted to convert but the Pope (when still a Cardinal) advised against it. So that would qualify under item #1.

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  2. GeremiaAugust 10, 2014 at 10:13 PM

    When did Francis say "to the SSPX that they are Catholic"?

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    1. TradicalAugust 11, 2014 at 8:28 AM

      "The District Superior therefore went to him to present the problem: there was an easy solution, and that would be to declare ourselves an independent church [before Civil Law], but we did not want to do it because we are Catholic. And the Cardinal told us, "no, no, you are Catholic, that is evident; I will help you;" he wrote a letter in our favor to the government, that is so leftwing that they managed to find an opposing letter by the nuncio. "

      http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2014/05/sspx-bp-fellay-on-pope-francis-he-has.html

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