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Pope Francis and the Effect on the Church

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The tablet has the following short article:

‘Conformist’ younger clergy wary of Francis – Dublin archbishop04 August 2014 14:54 by Sarah Mac DonaldPope Francis’ courage is causing disquiet among those with “a very conformist and closed Catholicism” the Archbishop of Dublin has warned.
In a speech given in Melbourne, Archbishop Diarmuid Martin referred to a young curate who recently told his parish priest he was not at all happy with some things the Pope had said.
The young priest felt they “were not in line with what he had learned in the seminary” and he suggested that they were “making the faithful insecure and even encouraging those who do not hold the orthodox Catholic beliefs to challenge traditional teaching.”
The archbishop warned conservative and progressive Catholics against becoming “closed in” within our own ideas. He also acknowledged that Irish Catholicism had a strong tradition of strict teaching.
Responding to the comments, Fr Seamus Ahearne of the Association of Catholic Priests said the Archbishop’s words were “apt” and that the Church in Ireland needs to hear more comments like this.
He said the archbishop’s concern about the “young curate” was a familiar one as many were concerned that the few young priests there are in the Irish Church appear to embrace a very traditionalist view of Church.
They are “so locked into a past model of priesthood” he commented and said this manifested itself in “the way that they dress up, the way they celebrate Mass, and in their views.” (source)

Interesting that in a short time we find that that the opinion put forth by a bishop that a "few young priests ... embrace a very traditionalist view of Church. ... locked into a past model of priesthood" .

Obviously, Pope Francis is (implicitly or explicitly) supporting the post conciliar culture that IS a rupture with the pre-conciliar culture.

Note to new readers: If the post-conciliar culture within the Church of Christ was not in 'rupture' with the pre-conciliar culture, they wouldn't have an allergic reaction to the SSPX and 'crypto-lefebvrists'.

Also, Fr. Greiger of the FFI has this to say about crypto-lefebvrists:

Crypto-Lefebvrism is theoretical and practical agreement with the anticonciliar ideas of the SSPX, involving whatever dissimulation is necessary to continue to operate within full communion. Bishop Fellay has made reference to bishops who act in this fashion, who are in agreement with the SSPX, but more or less camouflage their intentions in order not to be removed from influence (1:14:00-1:16:30).(source)

So, what appears to be in the offing is a  hunt for crypto-lefebvrists.  People, without distinction, who cross the cultural assumption that the merits of the Second Vatican Council are unquestionable.

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