Breaking Down St. Thomas' Summa Article on Obedience - 1a

Breaking Down St. Thomas' Summa Article on Obedience - 1a - Introduction

JMJ

Obedience – The Sequel

Intro

In St. Thomas' concept, obedience is a double edged sword that cuts the vice of pride one way via submission to another, and in another way cuts the virtue of virtues of Charity and Justice via submission to a superior rather than to God.

Why is this important?

Because many within the Catholic Church tout that the SSPX is disobedient and that this disobedience is 'schismatic' etc.

Why argue about this topic?

Because in arguing we have an opportunity to discover new perspectives on the topic that, because of our natural biases and insights, we would never has considered.

For example, 'Gerard' made the assertion that the destruction of the 'mode of life' overruled the principles explained in earlier posts. Given the clarity of St. Thomas' logic as well as its hierarchy, I never would have considered this outlandish position. Sometimes the assertions are simply non-sequitors, other times they are useful. More on this later.

In this series of articles on St. Thomas' concept of obedience, I am going to summarize his perspective as well as provide the insights into areas that my discussions have highlighted as needing further explanation.

Tradicat Articles on Obedience

First, I have been studying obedience since 2013 and started to publish articles on the topic on Tradicat in order to keep them handy for reference.

Here is a pretty complete listing.

http://tradicat.blogspot.ca/2013/08/principles-of-obedience-for-laity.html

http://tradicat.blogspot.ca/2014/02/can-obedience-oblige-us-to-disobey.html

http://tradicat.blogspot.ca/2014/02/what-comes-first-obedience-or-fidelity.html

http://tradicat.blogspot.ca/2014/05/obedience-maligned-and-misunderstood.html

http://tradicat.blogspot.ca/2015/06/principle-of-obedience-applied-to-sspx.html

http://tradicat.blogspot.ca/2016/10/the-catholic-church-and-rule-of-law.html

http://tradicat.blogspot.ca/2016/10/the-catholic-church-and-rule-of-law_28.html

http://tradicat.blogspot.ca/2016/10/true-obedience-mark-of-faithful.html

http://tradicat.blogspot.ca/2016/11/true-obedience-mark-of-faithful.html

http://tradicat.blogspot.ca/2016/11/true-obedience-mark-of-faithful_2.html

http://tradicat.blogspot.ca/2016/11/true-obedience-mark-of-faithful_3.html

http://tradicat.blogspot.ca/2016/11/true-obedience-mark-of-faithful_4.html

http://tradicat.blogspot.ca/2016/11/true-obedience-mark-of-faithful_5.html

http://tradicat.blogspot.ca/2016/11/true-obedience-mark-of-faithful_6.html

http://sspx.ca/en/news-events/news/true-obedience-the-mark-of-a-faithful-catholic

http://tradicat.blogspot.ca/2017/05/foundation-of-crisis-of-church.html

http://tradicat.blogspot.ca/2016/11/true-obedience-mark-of-faithful_2.html

P^3

PS.

Here's a complete listing of the articles in this recent series on obedience.

Introduction: http://tradicat.blogspot.ca/2017/07/breaking-down-st-thomas-summa-article.html

Obedience as per St. Thomas: http://tradicat.blogspot.ca/2017/07/breaking-down-st-thomas-summa-article_23.html

DisObedience as per St. Thomas Aquinas: http://tradicat.blogspot.ca/2017/07/breaking-down-st-thomas-summa-article_24.html

Key Distinctions: http://tradicat.blogspot.ca/2017/07/breaking-down-st-thomas-summa-article_25.html

Application to the 1988 Consecrations: http://tradicat.blogspot.ca/2017/07/breaking-down-st-thomas-summa-article_26.html

Conclusions: http://tradicat.blogspot.ca/2017/07/breaking-down-st-thomas-summa-article_27.html

Objections: http://tradicat.blogspot.ca/2017/07/breaking-down-st-thomas-summa-article_28.html

St. Thomas on Legitimate authority and obedience: http://tradicat.blogspot.ca/2017/07/breaking-down-st-thomas-summa-article_13.html

A Look Back: A short history of the SSPX

+ JMJ I started a timeline a while back but never finished it. Fortunately, here's one that brings us up to 1994!!! P^3 http://archives.sspx.org/SSPX_FAQs/a_short_history_of_the_sspx-part-1.htm A short history of the SSPX A presentation given by Fr. Ramon Angles in Kansas City, MO, on the 25th Anniversary of the founding of the SSPX and reprinted from the January 1996 issue of The Angelus . Part 1 The history of the Society of St. Pius X begins, of course, in the mind of God. But do not believe that its temporal origin is to be found solely at the time of the post-conciliar crisis. The Society of St. Pius X was made possible ...

Hermeneutic of the Hermeneutic of Continuity - sspx.org

+ JMJ Since I'm looking at the 'four things', I thought this article would be good. Unfortunately, with the new SSPX.org website, I've been unable to locate the original article. This is a copy the I emailed to myself. This is an article that, I believe, was written in response to a conference given by Msgr. Pozzo. P^3

SSPX and the Resistance - A Comparison Of Ecclesiology

Shining the light of Church Teaching on the doctrinal positions of the SSPX and the Resistance. Principles are guides used to aid in decision making. It stands to reason that bad principles will lead to bad decisions. The recent interactions between Rome and the SSPX has challenged a number of closely held cultural assumptions of people in both sides of the disagreement. This has resulted in cultural skirmishes in both Rome and the SSPX. Since it is the smaller of the two, the skirmishes have been more evident within the SSPX. The cultural fault-line that Bishop Fellay crossed appears to be linked to two points of Catholic Doctrine: Ecclesiology and Obedience. The cultural difference of view points is strong enough that it has resulted in the expulsion of a number of members. It should also be noted that some other priests expelled since the beginning of the latest interactions (starting in 2000) held the same view points and have joined with the l...

Morning and Evening and other sundry Prayers

+ JMJ Along the theme of P^3 (Prayer, Penance, Patience), and for my own reference ... here is a collection of Morning and Evening prayers from the Ideal Daily Missal along with some additional prayers. In this crisis of the Church, I do not think it is possible to do too much prayer, penance and have patience. P^3

Dogmas of the Catholic Faith (de fide) - Expanded Listing: Answer for Reader

+ JMJ A reader asked the following question in the 2015 version of the article on the Dogmas of the Catholic Faith (link) : 117: "In the state of fallen nature it is morally impossible for man without Supernatural Revelation, to know easily, with absolute certainty and without admixture of error, all religious and moral truths of the natural order." Where can you find this in the documents of the Church? ( Link to comment ) Here's the reference from Ott: The citation that Ott provided was Denzinger 1786 and the source document is Dogmatic Consitution Concerning the Faith from the First Vatican Council (Papal Encyclicals - link) : Chapter 2 On Revelation, Article 3: It is indeed thanks to this divine revelation , that those matters concerning God, which are not of themselves beyond the scope of human reason, can, even in the present state of the human race, be known by everyone, without difficulty, with firm certitude and with no intermingling of error. Here's ...

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