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Remnant's thoughts on the latest non developments in the Rome / SSPX relations

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Attached below is the Remnant's thoughts on the latest developments (or lack thereof) in the Rome / SSPX relations.

Of course, I'm certain the Fr. Greiger over at Mary Victrix would have a different opinion, but that is his perspective - even if it is wrong. :-)

P^3

Courtesy of the Remnant




BREAKING: The SSPX’s relations with Rome, according to Archbishop Pozzo

Written by  
Archbishop Guido PozzoArchbishop Guido Pozzo
Bishop Fellay to Archbishop Pozzo: “It is necessary to present to the Roman authorities the Society’s positions in their entirety, and not to waver on these positions, which are merely the positions of all the popes before Vatican II.”

Bravo, Excellency! 

Perhaps the Vatican will now come to understand that their problem with the Society of St. Pius X is not some imagined “schismatic spirit” borne out of intransigence and traditionalist arrogance, but rather the SSPX’s sacred duty before God to defend and proclaim the Catholic Faith, whole and entire, exactly as it was handed down to them by their fathers. 

It is the Vatican’s post-conciliar watering down of the ‘Faith of our Fathers’ that creates the impasse to reconciliation, not stubborn obstinacy on the part of the SSPX, which has in our opinion demonstrated admirable restraint in recent years in attempting to make this point clear to a Vatican bureaucracy steeped in scandal and confusion.
From where many of us are sitting, it is the Vatican, and not the SSPX, that needs to return to the full embrace of Holy Mother Church, her constant magisterium, her legitimate liturgy and her unchangeable dogmas. Or, to put it another way, rank Modernism is the problem, not Tradition and certainly not traditionalists.

The ball is in the Vatican's court. It has become clear to faithful Catholics all over the world that the moment the Vatican determines to abandon the diabolical “spirit of Vatican II” and all the confusion that spirit has spawned, the so-called SSPX “schism” will vanish into thin air.

For that wholly Catholic intention let us pray to the Lord. 


Read the full SSPX report on this development here

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