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Answers for 'resistors'

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JMJ


Note: Modified from a Suscipe Domine Thread found here.

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I have noticed that in the defense of +W et al, 'resistors' provide non-answers.

The following are the answers to questions that a Traditional Catholic should be able to provide with a little thought and research:
Q. What is the Conciliar Church?
A. A movement within the Church.
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This expression is commonly understood, not as a distinct object or substance, but rather as a new spirit, introduced into the Church at the time of the Council Vatican II, and which constitutes an obstacle the end of the Church ( http://tradicat.blogspot.ca/2014/04/has-sspx-strayed-from-teaching-of.html )



Q. What is the Catholic Church?
A. 
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“the assembly of men united in the profession of the same Christian faith and in the communion of the same sacraments, under the rule of legitimate pastors, and in particular, that of the one Vicar of Christ on earth, the Roman Pontiff.” (St. Robert Bellarminehttp://tradicat.blogspot.ca/2014/02/sspx-and-resistance-comparison-of.html )

Q. How does the Church understand the Dogma/Doctrine of the Four Marks / Visibility of the Church of Christ?
A.  
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One: "One may, with the Vatican Council, distinguish a two-fold unity of the Church:
Unity of Faith: This consists in the fact that all members of the Church inwardly believe the truths of faith proposed by the teaching office of the Church, at least implicitly, and outwardly confess them. ... Unity of Faith leaves room for various opinions in those controversial questions which the Church has not finally decided.
Unity of Government: This consists, on the one hand, in the subjection of the members of the Church to the authority of the bishops and of the Pope (unity of government or hierarchical unity) ; on the other hand, in the binding of the members among themselves to a social unity by participation in the same cult and in the same means of grace (unity of cult or liturgical unity).
The unity of both faith and of communion is guaranteed by the Primacy of the Pope, the Supreme Teacher and Pastor of the Church (centrum unitatis : D 1960). One is cut off from the unity of Faith by heresy and from the unity of communion by schism.
Holy: The Church is Holy for the following reasons: it is consecrated and dedicated to God; because the Church, as the Mystical Body of Christ, is united to its head: Our Lord Jesus Christ; and lastly the Church has the true worship of God.
Catholic: The Catholic Church is Universal, "embraces ... all mankind" and includes "all the faithful who have existed from Adam to the present day, or who shall exist, in the profession of the true faith, to the end of time".  Finally, the Church is called Universal because "all who desire eternal salvation must cling to and embrace her".
Apostolic: The Church of Christ can be recognized by its Apostolic origin, for "the Holy Ghost, who presides over the Church, governs her by no other ministers than those of Apostolic succession".
 ( http://tradicat.blogspot.ca/2014/04/has-sspx-strayed-from-teaching-of.html )

Q: Where are the Four Marks of the Visible Church of Christ?
A: Following the understanding of the Church - the Church of Christ is that organization that is under the leadership of Pope Francis.

Q: How does the 'resistance' understand the aforesaid Dogma/Doctrine:
A. 
http://tradicat.blogspot.ca/2014/02/sspx-and-resistance-comparison-of.html
http://tradicat.blogspot.ca/2014/12/how-far-does-apple-fall-from-tree-fr.html

Q: Where does +W et al believe the Four Marks of the Church are currently to be found?
A: Hard to say, they don't typically give a straight answer. 

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