Echoes of Traditionis Custodes: Obedience to What?

JMJ

So it has been a few weeks since TC was unleashed upon a suspecting Church and a few observations can now be made.

First, there is to confusion between the Teaching Authority of the Church (Magisterium) and the Legislative Authority.

I point this out because of this phrase from the Canadian Military Ordinariate:

We must also understand that this is not a passing occurrence. This motu proprio already carries with it the full weight of the Magisterium, being a canonically binding edict. However, it is also stated in the document that it “be published in the official Commentary of the Holy See, Acta Apostolicae Sedis [AAS; Acts of the Apostolic See].” The AAS is irreformable and binding and is an expression of the constant and universal Magisterium. (W. Wright) Source Roman Catholic Military Ordinariate

So let's get some clarity on this:

Catholic Dictionary

MAGISTERIUM

Definition

The Church's teaching authority, vested in the bishops, as successors of the Apostles, under the Roman Pontiff, as successor of St. Peter. Also vested in the Pope, as Vicar of Christ and visible head of the Catholic Church. (Etym. Latin magister, master.) Source: CatholicCulture

The magisterium of the Catholic Church is the church's authority or office to give authentic interpretation of the Word of God, "whether in its written form or in the form of Tradition."[1][2][3] According to the 1992 Catechism of the Catholic Church, the task of interpretation is vested uniquely in the Pope and the bishops,[4] though the concept has a complex history of development. Scripture and Tradition "make up a single sacred deposit of the Word of God, which is entrusted to the Church",[5] and the magisterium is not independent of this, since "all that it proposes for belief as being divinely revealed is derived from this single deposit of faith."[6] Source wikipedia

Obedience is going to be interesting because while it is an act of the Pope's legislative power, it isn't teaching us anything nor binding the Faith ... so it is not 'Magisterium'.

So obedience to what?

I'm looking forward to the next Pope, leveraging Pope Francis' precedent, and abrogating Traditionis Custodes.

P^3

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