CMTV - Fr. Urrutigoity ... another uni-dimensional story from Ms. De-Niles

JMJ

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It is no surprise that CMTV would dredge up Fr. Urrutigoity and ascribe malfeasance.

The title says it all "SSPX Bishops Ordained Known Gay Predator". They go on to say that he was protected and promoted by 'no fewer than three SSPX bishops' and that the whistle blower was expelled from the SSPX. Plus they quote Dr. Bond (Jeffrey not Jame) that he evaded justice by enlisting episcopal support.

Not quote true.

I met Fr.Urrutigoity and knew one of the seminarian's that accompanied him when he departed the SSPX.

First, we have Fr. Morello, who sought to expel the then seminarian Urrutigoity. However, as usual, the situation was not as simple as Ms. Niles implies.

Fr. Morello did not leave the SSPX on good terms and it was not because of his intervention that he was expelled from the SSPX. That is a longer process and would have been started months in advance, unless he did something really bad to cause a more severe process.

My understanding is that based on the strength of then seminarian Urrutigoity's abilities, there was a suspicion that there were other motivations behind attempts to get Urruoigoity expelled from the seminary. As noted, he did deny the charges etc.

Then Ms.Niles relies on a "Tradition In Action" article, confirmation bias at its best. I wonder if they ever looked for something that undermines their "story". Just because someone claims the "[It's] indisputable" ... doesn't make it indisputable.

From my knowledge (I had brothers in the US seminary in the early 80's) the SSPX seminaries were not as described by the TIA author.

There, it is now disputed.

I also dispute Ms. Niles' basic assertion that the SSPX is "sympathetic to perverts". I suspect that this series of "articles" is the result of their being thrashed over last year's shoddy fishing expedition with Fr. Lucas. The same shoddy work as been carried over to this series.

No one died and made CMTV God

Their sensationalist approach accomplishes nothing except to re-traumatize people who were abused and disturb peoples peace of soul.

Really, this is because CMTV thinks that they are better Catholics than the SSPX faithful.

I'm happy that the SSPX has stopped responding to CMTV, because they don't owe CMTV anything at all.

When I have a chance I will put together the principles (Catholic ones) that we need to use to assess CMTV's value in this situation.

P^3

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