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Resistance Dream: Fr. Epiney (Ally of +Lefebvre): “Ecône is Changing”

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I'm not going waste my time listening to the sermon to see if they've taken it out of context. I just want to point out a little issue with the following:
"What to think of all this? First of all, one is amazed: ... a conciliar bishop, a disciple of Benedict XVI and friend of Francis, is accepted in a Fraternity school in Wangs; and, on the other hand, Bishop Williamson, who was consecrated by Archbishop Lefebvre in 1988, is excluded from the Fraternity.
Let's unpack a couple of things.

First, one other bishop retired to the SSPX ... Bishop Lazo. In addition,
Bishop John Bosco Manat Chuabsamai associated with the SSPX.  So if Bishop Huander wants to retire the SSPX what is the problem???  I guess it is called guilt by association.

Next, it is obvious why Bishop Williamson was expelled from the SSPX - gross insubordination.  If any member of a religious order is incapable of rendering the obedience required of them ... then they get expelled .... this isn't rocket science people.




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  1. 0August 1, 2019 at 10:36 AM

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    1. TradicalAugust 2, 2019 at 8:41 PM

      Hi,
      I can't recall you previous comments.

      Bp Huonder: He comes in the spirit of Pope Francis to pray discern integrate and contribute to Church unity,

      ... note ... you didn't provide a link to his actually saying this ... but even if he did ...

      Your interpretation: Bring the Society into the open, apostate arms of V2.

      That isn't what is implied - you've made that jump.

      By the way, V2 was still a council of the Catholic Church ... I've even used it to prove to modern Catholics the Dogma of EENS.

      This is what the press release says:

      On Monday, May 20, 2019, Pope Francis relieved Bishop Vitus Huonder of his duties as Bishop of the Diocese of Chur (Switzerland), while appointing an administrator with a view to the election of his successor.

      According to an intention that he stated long ago, Bishop Huonder is retiring to a house of the Society of Saint Pius X. The one sole purpose of this step is to dedicate himself to prayer and silence, to celebrate the traditional Mass exclusively, and to work for Tradition, the only way of renewing the Church.

      The Society of Saint Pius X appreciates Bishop Huonder’s courageous decision and rejoices to be able to provide him with the spiritual and priestly surroundings that he desires so deeply. May this example be followed by others, so as to “restore everything in Christ”.

      May 20, 2019

      His Excellency Vitus Huonder Don Davide Pagliarani

      Bishop Emeritus of Chur Superior General of the SSPX

      I tend to take him at his word.

      Here's what I found on Eponymous Flower:


      At the request of kath.net, the diocese of Chur explains: "We are not commenting on the conspiracy theory of a Holocaust denier. We note, however, that Pope Francis wants to accompany and integrate rather than to exclude. In this sense, the Holy Father also wants to proceed with the Society of Saint Pius X and seek rapprochement. This wish is fulfilled by the Bishop of Chur through his contacts with the Society. Theories that construct a contrast between the wishes of the Pope and the diocese of Chur have no foundation.”
      http://eponymousflower.blogspot.com/2019/05/did-bishop-williamson-lie-about-bishop.html

      Note well, this is not a quote from Bishop Huonder but from the Diocesan office.

      So ... again, I stick with what we know they actually said - ie what is in the press release.

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    2. TradicalAugust 2, 2019 at 8:49 PM

      Hi again,

      I found the actual quotation at:
      https://international.la-croix.com/news/retired-swiss-bishop-to-live-in-sspx-home/10152#

      "... Like Pope Francis, I would like to offer my contribution to church unity, not to marginalize but to discern, accompany and assist [the SSPX] to integrate," he said. ..."

      Quick question: Where is the Catholic Church?

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