Regarding Dr. Lamont's article on Lifesite news

JMJ

I was taught ... a long time ago ... that as a Catholic ... overthrowing a tyrant can be done ... but on one condition: That you have practical certainty that the state of the country afterwards will be better.

Applied to the situation of Pope Francis, who has the makings of a great tyrant, the principle holds. What happens if only a part of the bishops find Pope Francis guilty of the crime of heresy? The most probably outcome is schism - like the Western Schism. ... Once they declare Pope Francis deposed, they will elect a new 'Pope' ... and then ... as long as Pope Francis is alive ... there will be two claimants to the See of Peter.

Somehow, I don't think this will be an improvement.

P^3

Further comment on Dr. Lamont's recent article on LifeSiteNews from a reader of Tradicat:

I don't want to question the great knowledge of John Lamont.But ... Archbishop [Lefebvre] was a man of the Church. He had a very profound "sensus ecclesiae" that he received not only from his studies in Rome, particularly at the Gregorian University, but also from his profound spiritual life, which made him to meditate often on the mystery of the Church, which is both human and divine.

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Those who consider too much the human side of the Church will surely fall into sedevacantism or papolatrism with all the levels of these errors. But the Church is divine. It means that, no matter how many crazy things Church men may attempt to do, as we see right now, Our Lord is still in control, and keep watching over His Church, the unspotted and immaculate mystical spouse of Christ.

Thus, looking at the writings or talks from Pope Francis, it is clear that we can find a number of heretical or near to heretical statements, but does it means that Francis can be accused of the sin of heresy, and thus be liable to be charged of the crime of formal heresy, with a canonical motion coming from the bishops of the world? There is a huge gap between between a statement that may contain some heretical elements, and the crime of formal heresy by which, according to some theologians, a pope may lose his pontificate. There is no unanimity among theologians, and even Bishop Schneider doesn't follow that opinion.
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Oremus!

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