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Bishop Schneider: "I have asked Msgr. Fellay not to delay ..." - A follow-up

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Deacon Nick Donnelly has posted a commentary on Bishop Schneider's statement concerning the SSPX here.

Here's the key point:

We can confidently subject ourselves to the Pope and bishops when they clearly and unambiguously subject themselves to the Word of God, "teaching only what has been handed on, listening to it devoutly, guarding it scrupulously and explaining it faithfully." When these conditions are evident we have a holy obligation to submit with "ready Christian obedience":
"The laity should, as all Christians, promptly accept in Christian obedience decisions of their spiritual shepherds, since they are representatives of Christ as well as teachers and rulers in the Church. Let them follow the example of Christ, who by His obedience even unto death, opened to all men the blessed way of the liberty of the children of God. Nor should they omit to pray for those placed over them, for they keep watch as having to render an account of their souls, so that they may do this with joy and not with grief." (LG 37).



 I've already discussed the principle of obedience and effectively, this is where it comes into practice.

If Rome requires a compromise on the Second Vatican Council, New Mass and ... even Amoris Laetitia - well ... that's an issue where obedience is subject to the command given.

... the SSPX has not compromised on this point and I understand that they aren't going to start now.

So ... for the resistance:


It has been four years since the latest accusation of a 'sell-out' that started back in 2000.  Let's think about this 16+ years and the SSPX hasn't compromised.  So wake up to the reality about the priests that you are supporting are wrong in soooo many ways.

For the Neo-Cats:


Since the Second Vatican Council the Popes have been at best mediocre (Pope St. John Paul II) and at worst terrible (ie. Paul VI and Francis the last).  Step back from irrationally defending the absurd and realize that when the Pope deviates from the Faith ... there's an issue.  Turning a blind eye to the issue does not make it go away. Nor does it make it any less dangerous to the faith of Catholics.

So wake up and do something about it.

One thing you could do is stop criticizing  people who realized in the 70's that there was an issue with the actions of the Pope.  That was 40 to 50 years before some people had bad hair issues(yes Mike Voris - I'm talking to you).

That would be a start.

Then you could start pushing for 'unchange'.

Buckle up people - Pope Francis the Last is in charge and until he's not we need to obey like Catholics and follow St. Thomas.

P^3


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