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"Catholic" Charismatic Renewal - Protestantism within the bosum of the Catholic Church (Part 2)

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JMJ

When confronted with the fact that the CCR is not Catholic, modern Catholics attempt to deflect by stating that there are good people who have fervent BIG families who adhere to it.

This is a red herring. There are fervent big protestant families as well.

They are both equally wrong.

It is a Catholic principle that you cannot do evil in order to achieve good.

Participating in a protestant practice by Catholic people, even when approved by Catholic bishops, does not make it right or any less evil.  

Many Modern Catholics have lost the ability to discern what is Catholic and what is protestant.  

Case in point, when I showed a modern Catholic enamored with the CCR, a passage indicating that speaking in tongues reduced over time and is associated with diabolical possession, he reacted both vocally and physically.  He spun away from the text and rejected the fact explicitly (his exact words escape my memory).

His mind was unable to accept the possibility that something he cherished was actually evil.

This acceptance of something so patently unCatholic seems to be a result of being immersed in an unCatholic culture since the 1960s.  The longer it lasts, the worse it becomes for those isolated from the truths of the Catholic Faith.

Pray that modern Catholics tainted by this crisis can accept the truth when confronted with it.

I will post some articles from various sources over the next few days.

P^3



Further Reading from: 1P5: Confusion about Graces: A Catholic Critique of the Charismatic Movement


FURTHER READING
To read more about the theological, spiritual, and liturgical problems of the charismatic movement, the following articles may be recommended:
Fr. John Hardon, S.J., “Pentecostalism: Evaluating a Phenomenon”
http://www.therealpresence.org/archives/Protestantism/Protestantism_002.htm
James Likoudis, “The Pentecostalism Controversy”
https://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=6587
Fr. Scott Gardner, “The Catholic Charismatic Renewal”
http://archives.sspx.org/miscellaneous/catholic_charismatic_renewal.htm
Peter Kwasniewski, “Objective Form and Subjective Experience: The Benedictine/Jesuit Controversy, Revisited”
http://www.newliturgicalmovement.org/2017/09/objective-form-and-subjective.html#.W-nuTYc2qUk
More articles may be found at https://charismataexamined.wordpress.com/spirituality-doctrine/.
I have written a fair amount on the predilection for “praise and worship” music among charismatics:
“Sacred Music vs. ‘Praise & Worship’—Does it Matter?”
Part I https://onepeterfive.com/sacred-music-vs-praise-worship-matter-pt/
Part II https://onepeterfive.com/sacred-music-vs-praise-worship-does-it-matter-pt-ii/
“A Plea to Youth Ministers: Give Up the Past and Embrace an Ageless Tradition”
https://onepeterfive.com/youth-ministers-give-up-past-embrace/
“Is ‘Contemporary’ Church Music a Good Example of Inculturation?”
https://onepeterfive.com/is-contemporary-church-music-a-good-example-of-inculturation/
ADDENDUM:
This recent article is also excellent: Philip Blosser, “Questions Concerning the Charism of Healing.”

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