Compromises

JMJ

Dogma, Doctrine, Discipline and Principles.

Place Catholic in front of these four words and you have the dividing line between the two camps in this crisis.

Want to know what to do, who is right, who is wrong? Look at their adherence to Catholic Dogma, Doctrine, Discipline and Principles.

Those who hold to the Catholic Dogmas, Doctrines, Disciplines, and Principles are on the side of Our Lord Jesus Christ.

Those who do not are on the other side.

There is no middle ground.

There are many that have crossed the line willingly and not a few that have done so by mistake.

If you are not building with Christ, then you are tearing down with Satan and his allies.

Anyone who has compromised on these items is on the wrong side. I'm not saying that they are damned etc, but that they are simply wrong.

Sedevacantists. In order to hold their position / opinion they have to cast aside a number of doctrines (dogmatic facts) and dogmas (there will be a successor of St. Peter until the end of the world).
Resistance. In order to hold their positions / opinion they have to ignore the virtue of obedience and break communion with other Catholics (ie schism). . . . Of course there is also their understanding of the Four Marks and structure of the Church.
(Neo) Modernists . This group brings to their logical conclusion all of the modernist principles which were identified by Pope St. Pius X. They trample and metaphorically spit upon all four of the elements.
Liberal Catholics. These are the original modernists and they are still around just under new names - such as Relativists etc. They also undermine all four elements as the acceptance of the four elements is simply a matter of personal choice. Their entire mantra can be summed up as: If it feeds your soul, well then that's ok for you.

The list goes on, I could include (believe it or not) the FSSP, ICK, etc as they are compromised (not by association) on principles - false obedience. But at least they are trying.

On the other side we have a number of groups of people who have not compromised. This list is short and I will focus on one: The SSPX.

It is not an easy path to follow, but they have succeeded so far and I pray that they will continue.

P^3

Comments

A Look Back: A short history of the SSPX

+ JMJ I started a timeline a while back but never finished it. Fortunately, here's one that brings us up to 1994!!! P^3 http://archives.sspx.org/SSPX_FAQs/a_short_history_of_the_sspx-part-1.htm A short history of the SSPX A presentation given by Fr. Ramon Angles in Kansas City, MO, on the 25th Anniversary of the founding of the SSPX and reprinted from the January 1996 issue of The Angelus . Part 1 The history of the Society of St. Pius X begins, of course, in the mind of God. But do not believe that its temporal origin is to be found solely at the time of the post-conciliar crisis. The Society of St. Pius X was made possible ...

Hermeneutic of the Hermeneutic of Continuity - sspx.org

+ JMJ Since I'm looking at the 'four things', I thought this article would be good. Unfortunately, with the new SSPX.org website, I've been unable to locate the original article. This is a copy the I emailed to myself. This is an article that, I believe, was written in response to a conference given by Msgr. Pozzo. P^3

SSPX and the Resistance - A Comparison Of Ecclesiology

Shining the light of Church Teaching on the doctrinal positions of the SSPX and the Resistance. Principles are guides used to aid in decision making. It stands to reason that bad principles will lead to bad decisions. The recent interactions between Rome and the SSPX has challenged a number of closely held cultural assumptions of people in both sides of the disagreement. This has resulted in cultural skirmishes in both Rome and the SSPX. Since it is the smaller of the two, the skirmishes have been more evident within the SSPX. The cultural fault-line that Bishop Fellay crossed appears to be linked to two points of Catholic Doctrine: Ecclesiology and Obedience. The cultural difference of view points is strong enough that it has resulted in the expulsion of a number of members. It should also be noted that some other priests expelled since the beginning of the latest interactions (starting in 2000) held the same view points and have joined with the l...

Morning and Evening and other sundry Prayers

+ JMJ Along the theme of P^3 (Prayer, Penance, Patience), and for my own reference ... here is a collection of Morning and Evening prayers from the Ideal Daily Missal along with some additional prayers. In this crisis of the Church, I do not think it is possible to do too much prayer, penance and have patience. P^3

Dogmas of the Catholic Faith (de fide) - Expanded Listing: Answer for Reader

+ JMJ A reader asked the following question in the 2015 version of the article on the Dogmas of the Catholic Faith (link) : 117: "In the state of fallen nature it is morally impossible for man without Supernatural Revelation, to know easily, with absolute certainty and without admixture of error, all religious and moral truths of the natural order." Where can you find this in the documents of the Church? ( Link to comment ) Here's the reference from Ott: The citation that Ott provided was Denzinger 1786 and the source document is Dogmatic Consitution Concerning the Faith from the First Vatican Council (Papal Encyclicals - link) : Chapter 2 On Revelation, Article 3: It is indeed thanks to this divine revelation , that those matters concerning God, which are not of themselves beyond the scope of human reason, can, even in the present state of the human race, be known by everyone, without difficulty, with firm certitude and with no intermingling of error. Here's ...

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