CMTV - SSPX SUPERIOR ISN’T PRIMARILY SEEKING REUNION WITH CATHOLIC CHURCH

JMJ

Church Militant has published an article about the SSPX declaration - you can find it here.

I guess I should not have taken the bait, but here's my reply - which they undoubtedly will not post.

So I've posted it here for the record.

Interestingly, they've shut down the comments on the article. I guess the response was too overwhelming for their moderators.

P^3

Hi Eli, There are a number of inaccuracies in your article that need to be rectified. With respect to the claim that the SSPX believes that " truth and grace have failed universally in the Church from the Pope on down. The SSPX claims Vatican II is full of doctrinal errors, and these errors are being universally perpetuated from all the popes and the Magisterium since then till now. This leads them to proclaim a "state of necessity" that frees them from the dictates of canon law and the unity it prescribes." This is a complete exaggeration of what the SSPX believes concerning the present state of the Church. Truth and Grace have not failed universally in the Church. This would contravene the doctrine of indefectibility of the Church. The SSPX does not claim "Vatican II is full of doctrinal errors". It claims that there are three classes of documents - those that are fully aligned with pre-conciliar magisterium, those that are ambiguous and finally that in four points there are contradictions of pre-conciliar magisterium. It accepts the first two classes with the traditional understanding of the Church. The final ones, they ask for corrections / clarifications. These are the core doctrinal issues being discussed. One example of a result of the teaching on ecumenism is the current thought that the people who profess the jewish religion are excluded from the missionary activity of the Church. Another would be the statement that the Church of Christ subsists in the Catholic Church - as opposed to the teaching of Pope Pius XII that the Church of Christ is the Catholic Church. What they do claim is "In the great and painful confusion that currently reigns in the Church, the proclamation of Catholic doctrine requires the denunciation of errors that have made their way into it and are unfortunately encouraged by a large number of pastors, including the Pope himself." Is this statement objectively true or not. That is what is important. The next step is how to act in accordance with Church Doctrine in the face of this reality. Cordially, Tradical

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A Look Back: A short history of the SSPX

+ JMJ I started a timeline a while back but never finished it. Fortunately, here's one that brings us up to 1994!!! P^3 http://archives.sspx.org/SSPX_FAQs/a_short_history_of_the_sspx-part-1.htm A short history of the SSPX A presentation given by Fr. Ramon Angles in Kansas City, MO, on the 25th Anniversary of the founding of the SSPX and reprinted from the January 1996 issue of The Angelus . Part 1 The history of the Society of St. Pius X begins, of course, in the mind of God. But do not believe that its temporal origin is to be found solely at the time of the post-conciliar crisis. The Society of St. Pius X was made possible ...

Hermeneutic of the Hermeneutic of Continuity - sspx.org

+ JMJ Since I'm looking at the 'four things', I thought this article would be good. Unfortunately, with the new SSPX.org website, I've been unable to locate the original article. This is a copy the I emailed to myself. This is an article that, I believe, was written in response to a conference given by Msgr. Pozzo. P^3

SSPX and the Resistance - A Comparison Of Ecclesiology

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Dogmas of the Catholic Faith (de fide) - Expanded Listing: Answer for Reader

+ JMJ A reader asked the following question in the 2015 version of the article on the Dogmas of the Catholic Faith (link) : 117: "In the state of fallen nature it is morally impossible for man without Supernatural Revelation, to know easily, with absolute certainty and without admixture of error, all religious and moral truths of the natural order." Where can you find this in the documents of the Church? ( Link to comment ) Here's the reference from Ott: The citation that Ott provided was Denzinger 1786 and the source document is Dogmatic Consitution Concerning the Faith from the First Vatican Council (Papal Encyclicals - link) : Chapter 2 On Revelation, Article 3: It is indeed thanks to this divine revelation , that those matters concerning God, which are not of themselves beyond the scope of human reason, can, even in the present state of the human race, be known by everyone, without difficulty, with firm certitude and with no intermingling of error. Here's ...

Morning and Evening and other sundry Prayers

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