Another Concession by Rome

JMJ

Bishop de Galarreta ordains a priest for the Chaldean right and Rome said that the SSPX can proceed with ordinations even without the local ordinaries permission (see red section below).

This appears to be another concession by Rome - along the lines of accepting the SSPX as they are - ordinations outside of the normal structures of the Church.

As the centenary of Fatima approaches, these are indeed interesting times!

P^3

« Ceux qui veulent vivre pieusement dans le Christ Jésus souffriront persécution ».
Et alors certains, évidemment, disent que nous avons tort et que nous sommes des schismatiques, que nous sommes des illégaux dans l’Eglise, et déjà, cher Abbé vous avez eu un peu à rentrer, comme un bon soldat du Christ, dans les combats de Dieu. Donc vous avez dû donc souffrir cette persécution dont nous parle saint Paul : « Ceux qui veulent vivre pieusement dans le Christ Jésus souffriront persécution ».
Et alors le Patriarche de Babylone, qui est chaldéen, dit que nous sommes schismatiques. Et l’Ordinaire en France pour les Eglises orientales dit que nous sommes des illégaux. Or le Pape lui-même dit que la Fraternité, nous sommes des catholiques. Alors nous sommes des catholiques ou nous sommes des schismatiques ? J’ai avec moi la lettre qui m’a été donnée par Son Excellence Monseigneur Fellay, où la Congrégation de la doctrine de la Foi nous dit, a dit à Monseigneur, que nous pouvons procéder aux ordinations sans demander la permission des Ordinaires du lieu ; qu’il suffit de leur donner les noms des ordonnés, chose que nous ferons bien sûr, opportunément. Alors nous ne sommes ni schismatiques, ni des illégaux.
Alors pourquoi agitent-ils cet épouvantail, vous voyez de la légalité, si nous sommes en règle canoniquement ou pas, du schisme alors qu’il n’y en a pas et que Rome même le reconnaît ? Et bien parce que ce qui nous sépare c’est la doctrine, c’est la Foi, c’est la rupture avec la Tradition. Or ils ne veulent pas assumer que le problème est là. Car ils savent bien que là ils ont tort. Ils ne pourront jamais, même s’ils arrivent pour ainsi dire à tout coiffer, ils ne pourront jamais arriver à détruire la Foi, ni la Tradition, ni l’Eglise. ( http://laportelatine.org/mediatheque/sermonsecrits/galarreta_160702_st_nicolas_sabur/galarreta_160702_st_nicolas_sabur.php )

Comments

Auctorem Fidei

Can the SSPX be right about the Novus Ordo? Revision: Feb 11, 2013 On another web forum, I was engaged in a rather heated discussion about the documents of Vatican II.

Morning and Evening and other sundry Prayers

+ JMJ Along the theme of P^3 (Prayer, Penance, Patience), and for my own reference ... here is a collection of Morning and Evening prayers from the Ideal Daily Missal along with some additional prayers. In this crisis of the Church, I do not think it is possible to do too much prayer, penance and have patience. P^3

Is it sinful to attend the Novus Ordo (New Mass) - Is it Sinful to Not Attend the Novus Ordo on Sunday?

+ JMJ A non-SSPX Catholic is upset over the SSPX statements on not attending the Novus Ordo Missae. Ladies and gentlemen, what the SSPX, or at least its website editor, is advocating is a mortal sin against the Third Commandment. Unless the priest deviates from the language of the Sacramentary, the consecration, and thus the rest of Mass is to be considered valid. No one may elect not to attend Mass simply because abuses are occurring therein. Might I suggest that such absenteeism is its own abuse? The Third Commandment binds under mortal sin. Father So-And-So from the SSPX has no authority whatsoever to excuse attendance at Mass, be that Mass ever so unpalatable. Source:Restore DC Catholicism Well, this is interesting. First why does the SSPX issue this statement? Because it is sinful to put your faith in danger by attending a protestant service. It is likewise dangerous to put your faith in danger by attending a protestantized mass (ie the Novus Ordo Missae

Catholic Culture - The Edgar Schein Model Analysis of the Pre and Post Conciliar Culture

+ JMJ So ... I was thinking ... I've used Edgar Schein's (RIP) organizational cultural model (link ) in my research ... why not apply it in a comparison between the Catholic Organizational Culture - PRE and POST Second Vatican Culture? Of course, this will be from my own perspective, I'm certain that others will think differently. 😁 Also, apologies for a rather long article. Graphic: https://mutomorro.com/edgar-scheins-culture-model/ Below is a quick mapping of the cultural factors that I could think of. Since the Church is vast and composed of millions of Souls, it is necessarily a limited cultural map. Yet, I think it will still be useful to assess what has changed since the Second Vatican Council. Additional Reading: 5 enduring management ideas from MIT Sloan’s Edgar Schein | MIT Sloan Artifacts Artifacts are tangible and observable aspects of the culture being examined. All organizations have them. Walmart has their Walmart chant, Charismatics have their spe

Holy Ghost vs Holy Spirit

+ JMJ Something that always and I do mean always causes me to cringe interiourly is when non-Trad Catholics use the words "Holy Spirit" instead of "Holy Ghost". First, this is a natural response because of long usage of "Holy Ghost" as soon as I hear the word "Holy" in a prayer, my brain automatically is prepped to hear "Ghost" afterwards. This creates a short period of interiour dissonance (discomfort). Now the question I would like to ponder today is whether or not there is a difference and whether or not there is a right way vs wrong way.

Tradicat

Search This Blog