"Catholic" Charismatic Renewal - Protestantism within the bosum of the Catholic Church (Part 1)

JMJ

Slain by which spirit?

If there is anything that creates culture shock for Traditional Catholics is contact with Modern Catholics who are "infected" or sometimes more appropriately "possessed" by the Charismatic "Renewal".

Yes, I deliberately meant to use the words "infected" and "possessed" because I believe them to be apt descriptions of the condition people unknowingly find themselves.

I suspect that the late John Vennari (RIP) would agree.

Now let's be clear: There is nothing Catholic about this movement. It originated outside of the Catholic Church, it is not the 8th Sacrament that some seem to believe it to be, and it is dangerous.

For a look at the history please read this article: Tradicat: "Catholic" Charismatic Renewal - Culture Shock ) that I reposted with Mr. Vennari's permission.

Key point in the history is this account:

One of those present, Ralph Keifer, wrote that at the end of this prayer meeting "Pat [Bourgeois] and I asked to be prayed with for the baptism of the Holy Spirit. They broke up into several groups because they were praying over several people. They simply asked me to make an act of faith for the power of the Spirit to work in me. I prayed in tongues rather quickly."5 Later, the same Ralph Keifer laid hands on two others (unidentified in the book) and they too "received the baptism in the spirit."

This account provides sufficient proof that the CCR (not Creedence Clearwater Revival) did not originate within the Catholic Church, nor is it a vestige of Catholicism that the Catholic Church lost and the protestants retained.

In spite of what "Church Militant" and Michael Voris state here, there is great danger in the "substance" of the CCR, leaving one's self open for the 'spirit' to enter. A number of the accounts related by Mr. Vennari are consistent with demonic possession.

P^3

Further Reading:

What they say about themselves: http://www.iccrs.org/en/about-us/the-ccr/

Comments

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Communique about Avrille Dominicans - SSPX.org

+ JMJ Having completed the review of the 'Avrille' perspective, this communique from the French District Superior is perfectly timed. I believe that the 'resistance' has lost rationality and further argumentation simply results in their holding on to their false ideal all the more firmly. Pray much ... First, for them to acquiesce to the grace of humility in order to obtain a clear perspective on the principles involved. Second, that we may remain faithful to the Church, and Her Dogmas, Doctrines and Principles. Lest we become that which against we strove ... P^3 Courtesy of SSPX.org

Morning and Evening and other sundry Prayers

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+ JMJ An interesting thing has happened on the discussion that prompted my article on whether it is sinful to attend the Novus Ordo Missae . The blog owner of RDCC has shut down discussion by locking the article. That is their prerogative, but I am puzzled as to why? Perhaps it has something to do with some of the latter comments. They didn't believe the teaching on intention with regards to confecting the Sacraments. This is not the first time I've experienced incredulity on this topic ( reference articles ). Really this isn't about what they believe but the truth. They seem to believe that the objections to the Novus Ordo Missae are simply about "overly delicate sensibilities". In response to this I am reblogging a number of articles by the SSPX. Perhaps it was the comment made by Bishop Schneider, a currently well revered hero (who deserved the accolades) but apparently has said something similar to the SSPX. I suspect that it is more...

A Reply to Martin Blackshaw’s FLAWED Remnant article titled: FLAWED: SSPX Advice on Abortion-tainted Vaccines

+ JMJ An article has appeared in the Remnant (link to article) and I am afraid that there are a number of flaws in it that need to be addressed. The author, Martin Blackshaw, believes that both the Church and the SSPX are misapplying the principle of Moral Theology called 'Cooperation In Evil'. Unfortunately, Mr. Blackshaw rests most of his arguments on citing authors that support his position, without considering the possibility that they are wrong. This highlights a key factor in this crisis: ignorance of the faith and its application . I don't am not singling out Mr. Blackshaw for this criticism, I have observed that it applies to laity and religious, superior and subject a like. No one seems immune in this enduring crisis, myself included. I further believe that this ignorance is why so many Catholics, both traditional and non, rely on their gut feeling or "Catholic conscience" for charting their way through this crisis of the faith. While...

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