LET’S NOT MAKE A DEAL...AT LEAST THIS DEAL - Weigel

LET’S NOT MAKE A DEAL...AT LEAST THIS DEAL - Weigel - Sequel

JMJ

Well, it is quite amusing to see the extents that someone will go to to not admit that there's an issue with the documents of the Second Vatican Council.

To make a deal with the SSPX and the Lefebvrist movement on Archbishop Pozzo’s premise—that this new personal prelature would be conceded a right to reject certain teachings of the Second Vatican Council—would be to make the symphony of Catholic truth discordant rather than melodic. It would validate even more dissent on the Catholic Left. It would reinforce the notion that doctrine is not about truth, but about power. (First Things: Lets-not-make-a-deal-at-least-this-deal)

Ok - let's see if I understand this:

selon the SSPX the documents of the Second Vatican "dissent" from prior magisterium.
If the SSPX is allowed to maintain on to this understanding of prior magisterium and be 'regularized' that affects the standing of the V2 magisterium.
This would validate even more dissent from the Catholic Left.

Well this is kinda funny, the SSPX's adherence to Catholic Teaching encourages modernists et al in their dissent.

Seriously?

Truth is stranger than fiction!

P^3

Comments

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