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DICI has posted some stats on the state of the priesthood in France.

This year there were 68 diocesan ordination (down from 82).  Combined with  religious ordinations the total his 120.

While this article is focused on the present state of affairs in France, the following jumped out at me:
This drop in ordinations is invariably accompanies, throughout the decades, a drop in the number of participants: in 1952, 27% of Catholics attended Mass; in 2010, only 4.5%, according to a study conducted by IFOP.
In the glory years of 1952, less than a third of Catholics attended Mass.

This seems to indicate that something was wrong well before the illustrious Second Vatican Council and that the Council did not rectify the situation.

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Courtesy of DICI




France: Drop in the number of ordinations this year

10-07-2015  
Filed under NewsThe Church in the world
2-ordinations-bayeuxLe Figaro of July 7, 2015, indicates that “the number of priests ordained in France has never been so low.” Indeed, the French bishops’ conference announced 68 ordinations of diocesan priests in 2015, down from 82 in 2014. Together with the 52 ordinations of priests from religious orders, this makes up 120 priests (diocesan and religious) who are ordained for the year 2015, as compared to 140 last year. This is the lowest number in the last 15 years.
The future is hardly brighter, for only 87 diocesan seminarians were ordained to the diaconate in 2015 and are due to become priests next year. As Figarocolumnist Caroline Picquet writes, “the chronic drop in the number of priests in France has been concerning the bishops for a long time. The number of Catholic priests in France was almost halved over 20 years, moving from 29000 (diocesan and religious priests together) in 1995 to around 15,000 in 2015. Experts predict that there will be only 6000 priests in France by 2020.” 10,000 of them are over 65, and 7000 are over 75. And one bishops recognized the plain facts: “I ordain one priest per year, while I bury 12.” This means that many French bishops have not ordained a priest for ten years.
Le Figaro accepts this commentary fatalistically: “In the diocese of Toulouse, the chancellor Christian Teysseyrehas observed this permanent fluctuation from one year to the next. ‘On average, we have 1.5 ordinations per year, but this year we have not had any diocesan ordinations,’ he reports. ‘This is not the first time this has happened, it depends on the year. In 2016, for example, we expect to have three.’ In the diocese of Orleans, it varies a good deal. ‘This year, we have one ordination, versus four in 2014,” explains a layman involved with the Church who preferred to remain anonymous. 2012 and 2013 were more difficult years: “no ordinations.”
This drop in ordinations is invariably accompanies, throughout the decades, a drop in the number of participants: in 1952, 27% of Catholics attended Mass; in 2010, only 4.5%, according to a study conducted by IFOP.
(Sources: Figaro – CEF – IFOP – DICI no. 318, 10/07/15)

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