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A look back at 1988 and 2009 - The Excommunications and their lifting. - Part Trois

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JMJ

Received this in an email - I think it helps clarify the flow of events. (Part Un and Deux)

Point A: Who is affected by the decree of 1988 ?  Those named in it, specifically:
  1. Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre
  2. Bishop Antonio de Castro Mayer
  3. Bernard Fellay
  4. Bernard Tissier de Mallerais
  5. Richard Williamson 
  6. Alfonso de Galarreta
Point B: What is the duration of the effect of this decree?





Point C: As the Decree of 1988 no longer has juridical effect.

Point D: Therefore (ergo) as the Decree no longer has 'juridical effect', irregardless as who was named in the Decree of 2009, all those named in the Decree of 1988 are no longer affected by the decree of excommunication.

Point E: Therefore (ergo) the excommunications of Archbishop Lefebvre and Bishop de Castro Mayer have also been lifted.

Point F: I would like to add one thing that is less commonly known: once a person dies the excommunication is no longer effective since the person, upon their death, has passed out the authority of the Church Militant.

Either way, the decree of excommunication no longer has juridical effect for those named, both living an dead.

P^3

Comments

  1. By declaring the decree no longer has juridical effect are you implying in any way that the excommunications were valid and correctly charged to those named?

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  2. Hi Anonymous,

    I am not declaring that the decree no longer has juridical effect, The Pope instructed Cardinal Giovanni Battista Re to issue the decree.

    I am just acknowledging a fact.

    Nothing more nothing less.

    P^3

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