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In 2011, there was a conspiracy theory / fad amongst some Traditionalists to believe in Geocentrism.  It got to the point where the SSPX issued a statement (see references below). 

The core issue that I have with the Geocentrists that I have encountered is that their arguments are incoherent and don't prove what they think they do.

For example, in order to believe in Geocentrism is it necessary to set aside the basic understanding of Gravity and Centrifugal forces. This is what is keeping the satellites in orbit, not, as one geo claimed, the balance of the universe all around us does.

Other arguments are based on their literal interpretation of the Bible. We, as Catholics, are already supposed to know that there are issues with that approach depending on the passage.

Then there's the conspiracy theory against Galileo.Which, I'm not going to dig into today.

The key point is that, with its biases against actual evidence, poor arguments, Catholic Geocentrists make the job of the enemies of Christ easier.

So, Geocentrists, before you launch off an a tirade against ... whatever it is you're against ... study the 'opposition' and then hold Sungenis et al's in the same light. I know what I found and I'm certain you will arrive at the same conclusion. 

We may be at the physical center of the Universe because we can only see the same 'distance' around us which denotes a sphere.  But suspension of the Laws of Gravity to make geocentrism (i.e. Sun et al revolving around the Earth) requiring a permanent miracle is laughable.

P^3


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References

The New Geocentrists Come Unraveled | Welcome to GeocentrismDebunked.org
Robert Sungenis: Incompetent in Physics | Welcome to GeocentrismDebunked.org
WebArchive: SSPX On Geocentrism 
SSPX Podcast: Is the Catholic Church Anti-Science Galileo Explained
https://fsspx.news/en/news/vatican-has-decided-restore-galileos-reputation-10047 
 
 

The SSPX on geocentrism: press release

What is the SSPX's position concerning the heliocentric and geocentric scientific theories of the solar system?

PLATTE CITY, MO (8-30-2011) A recent news report implied that the Priestly Society of St. Pius X promotes the scientific theory of geocentrism as a Catholic teaching based upon the Bible. The SSPX holds no such position.

The Church’s magisterium teaches that Catholics should not use Sacred Scripture to assert explanations about natural science, but may in good conscience hold to any particular cosmic theory. As a religious congregation of the Catholic Church, the SSPX holds to these principles and does not teach any solar scientific theory.

The SSPX and the solar system

As declared by Pope Leo XIII in Providentissimus Deus, science cannot contradict the Faith:

There can never… be any real discrepancy between the theologian and the physicist, as long as each confines himself within his own lines, and both are careful, as St. Augustine warns us, 'not to make rash assertions, or to assert what is not known as known.'"

Even today, many commonly-held tenets of natural science are merely theories, not certainties. This is not the case with the Catholic Faith, which is a certainty.

The Church’s magisterium authoritatively teaches on the correct interpretation of Sacred Scripture. As Pope Pius XII taught in Divino Afflatu Spiritu:

The Holy Ghost, Who spoke by them [the sacred writers], did not intend to teach men these things—that is the essential nature of the things of the universe... [which principle] will apply to cognate sciences…"

Providentissimus Deus also states that Scripture does not give scientific explanations and many of its texts use “figurative language” or expressions “commonly used at the time”, still used today “even by the most eminent men of science” (like the word “sunrise”). Such expressions are not scientific teachings about the cosmic world.

So Catholics should not use the Bible to assert explanations about natural science, but may in good conscience hold to any particular cosmic theory. Being faithful to the Church’s magisterium, the Society of St. Pius X holds fast to these principles: no more and no less.

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