What can we learn from CMTV et al? (Update: Grammar Corrected :-( )

JMJ

Update: I didn't like the way this article 'read' so I've made some edits. Tradical

I think we've reached another milestone in the Crisis of the Church and perhaps can draw another insight in how to emerge from this crisis.

Traditional Catholics are human and naturally when persecuted for believing the Teachings of the Catholic Church and wanting to worship in a truly Catholic rite, some of them get bitter and reactive to the point where they go with their assumptions as opposed to reason. (note 1)

Voris and Niles are good example of this situation. They have a belief about what it means to be a faithful Catholic. They react bitterly to anything that contradicts that belief - hence their attacks on the SSPX.

But they aren't the only ones.

Given various theories that are re-emerging tells me that what was old is new again and 'young' trads are now repeating mistakes made decades ago as they grasp at the same straws to 'explain' the behaviour of key people in this crisis. I'm speaking of the Paul VI imposter theory vs the Sister Lucy imposter theory.

Back to topic, what can we learn from Michae Voris and Christine Niles? It is simple, they are Catholics that are unable to keep their objectively and are prisoners to their emotions. Emotions are important, but not at the expense of the Truth and Catholic Principles. As an example here's two tweets:

I never said stop attending church. I said call your leadership to account. How many are actually doing that? Seriously? How many are outraged by the abuse & cover-up & demanding reform? Because I'm seeing very, very few on social media. If you aren't, you're enabling abuse.(Ms. Christine Niles)

It'd be very curious to see what @SSPXEN followers would say if it was their family@member sexually assaulted. Would they finally open their eyes - or remain bowing before their idol of the Latin Mass being offered by a Nazi Pedophile cult. (Michael Voris)

These tweets are reactive and not following Catholic principles. I expect that the name calling is a symptom of a deeper malaise. I was initially encouraged when Voris started RealCatholic TV, but somewhere he stepped off the path and is in a death spiral - like a number of other celebrity Catholics.

If they can't stand up to the reactive trads (that they bait) and respond as Catholics, then they should leave the stage.

Voris and Niles are a warning to all faithful Catholics. Heed the warning, be faithful, be grateful or you you will enter the death spiral like sooo many others.

P^3

Note 1: This is why it is critical to test our assumptions about what the Church Teaches and dig deeper into the nature of the crisis, what it is doing to people and above all have a strong spiritual life.

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