CMTV: The Gonzalez Story Something Doesn't Add Up!

JMJ

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So the CMTV has gone back to the Michael Gonzalez wishing well. Still hoping for something to stick.

The Gonzalez story is a sad one, but it is important to know the difference between what we know and what we believe.

After reading Sarah's story, I know what she claims, I do disbelieve them ... I don't find them credible.

Why?

Because there are a number of contradictions and incredulous statements made and when compared with other statements more contradictions start to emerge.

It is very hard to keep a story consistent when it isn't based on directly observed events. It is even harder to keep it together when it is simply stories (perhaps lies) related over the decades.

It becomes practically impossible to maintain consistency when a number of people start trying to protect their perspective of reality, a perspective that may warped.

I did some fact checking of this latest story I now know that a Mario Gonzalez age 70 has an outstanding warrant , issued in 2014, for his arrest in Pottawatomie County. This warrant is consistent with the allegations recently made by one of his daughters to CMTV.

Assuming that there aren't more than one Mario Gonzalez associated with Traditional Catholicism in the St. Mary's area, I believe that in 2013 he was associated with FSSP, and sang Christmas carols at a fund raiser. Maybe CMTV will accuse them of sheltering perverts next.

The story has been told multiple times by multiple people and the threads are now intersecting and enabling me to put some things together, ask some pertinent questions and make an inference.

1. Kurt Chione claimed that in spring of 1990 Michael Gonzalez said "he hurt me"but wouldn't say who. Later he claimed it was Fr. Angles.

2. His family members claimed that they saw a change in Michael near the end of his 8th grade year (May 1989) and that he dropped out in grade 9 (1990).

3. Fr. Angles arrived in St. Mary's in July 1989.

4. Michael, according to the drivers license, was born on July 23, 1974 and Sarah was the 4th oldest sibling. Meaning that in fall 1989 Michael was 15 years old and Sarah would be around 10.

5. Now we have Sarah's claim that:

We were born into this, a multi-generational plague of incestuous and psychopathic behaviors.

6. We also have her claim that:

Michael was just part of that bargain. Father Angles was offered impunity by my father to steal our beloved Michael's virtue.

Something doesn't add up.

Exactly when and where did the alleged assault take place?

Did Mr. Chione really go to the police?

Are there other possible explanations for these events?

These are questions that CMTV should have asked, especially as they were doing an 'investigation'.

Key items that popped out of the various Gonzalez narrative are:

a. Michael's behaviour changed before Fr. Angles arrived.

b. A suicide note is mentioned by Mr.Chione and letters by the family but these appear to have been destroyed in a house fire.

Goodman said Michael had written “a lot of letters about what had happened” and that “he named Angles several times.” But the family’s house in St. Marys burned down a few years after Michael’s death, she said, and everything in it was destroyed.(KCS)

c. The Gonzalez family was obviously troubled as noted in #5.

d. It is highly unlikely that Sarah has first-hand knowledge of the allegation made in #6 and this allegation seems inconsistent #2.

My conclusions are:

1. It is possible something happened to Michael before Fr. Angles arrived.

2. Given the allegations laid against his father this may be the real cause behind his change of behaviour.

3. The allegations against Fr. Angles are simply a part of a stories web in which that family was caught up.

P^3

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