Skip to main content

Sedevacantism Kill Chain - True of False Pope

+
JMJ

This is my second article for True or False Pope.  In my design career jumping to a conclusion has bitten me a number of times.  This is why one of the key elements in project management and design engineering is listing your assumptions.  The project plan then needs to incorporate a way to validate those assumptions before it is too late.

Sedevacantists have made this same mistake time and time again.  They are scandalized (rightly so!) be all the shenanigans of the Popes, assume that this can't be so, and jump to the conclusion that the current reigning Pontiff cannot possibly be the Vicar of Christ.

If the sedevacantists accept the doctrine of the Church, then following the doctrine of dogmatic facts they would have to admit that we haven't had a sedevacante since the death of Pius XII (or whatever Pope they hold to be last validly elected).

I hope this article helps!

Keep the Faith!

P^3



Sedevacantism Kill Chain


A kill chain lists the critical links of an attack; if any 'link' in the chain is broken, the attack fails.

The kill chain for 'sedevacantism' is no different as it describes a chain of events (causes) that must have occurred in order to rationally and objectively conclude that a specific Pope was either invalidly elected or has been deprived of the office of the Vicar of Christ (effect). Without an unbroken chain of causes, the conclusion of Sede Vacante is dangerous speculation.


Illustration 1: Sedevacantism Kill Chain

One common sedevacantist fallacy is to ignore the Kill Chain completely by placing the effect before the cause. Typically it manifests itself as a strong belief concerning the documents of the Second Vatican Council as being formally heretical. Therefore the sedevacantist concludes that the Popes who convened / closed the Council (John XXIII, Paul VI), and accepted it (John Paul I, John Paul II, Benedict XVI, Francis) could not possibly be valid Vicars of Christ. When they encounter a Church Doctrine that contradicts their belief, they re-imagine it to suit their belief instead of submitting to Church Doctrine and admitting that their understanding is flawed.




The doctrine that the sedevacantists re-imagine is the doctrine of Dogmatic Facts.

According to Dr. Ludwig Ott, dogmatic facts are historical facts, that while not revealed are “intrinsically connected with revealed truth, for example the legality of a Pope or a General Council”. In short, there is no confusion about the legitimacy of a the election of a specific Vicar of Christ as the Church has provided us with an infallible means of “knowing”who was validly elected.

The following diagram outlines four commentaries on the manner of how the infallible dogmatic fact of the legitimacy of a Pontiff's election is established.


Following the reasoning of Hunter and Van Noort, all that is required is to establish infallibly that a Pope's election was valid was the acceptance by the Bishops in union with Rome. Van Noort's explanation is further linked to the Ordinary and Universal Magisterium, which is likewise infallible.

St. Alphonsus and Billot include with the acceptance of the Bishops (Ecclesia Docens) that of the other members of the Church, presumably including the laity (Ecclesia Discens).

The sedevacantists that I have debated ignore Hunter, Van Noort and St. Alphonsus and exclude portions of Billot's thesis by focusing on the section highlighted in Green. The claim made is that no Catholics hold the post conciliar Popes as 'rules of faith' therefore they aren't Pope.

One thing is certain, that there was no question of the legitimacy of the election of Pope John XXIII and Paul VI at the time of their election. They were accepted completely by even those who would later assert that the See of Peter was vacant.

With respect to the successors of Pope Paul VI, we can also have equal certainty as firstly all subsequent Pontiffs have been universally accepted by the Bishops of the Catholic Church (Hunter and Van Noort). We can also have moral certainty following St. Alphonsus and Billot as there existed a morally unanimous acceptance of the successors of Pope Paul VI as validly elected Popes by the Faithful as well as the Bishops.

In the name of intellectual honest, sedevacantists need to either accept or reject the Doctrine of Dogmatic Facts instead of re-imagining it to suit their beliefs. Otherwise, they are simply imitating the modernists whom they profess to expose.

P3
Tradical



Comments

Popular posts from this blog

News Roundup: July 11, 2025

 + JMJ This has been an interesting month for news ... First we had the leaking of the 2021 report on what I would call the "Survey of Tradition".  Not surprisingly, the report was generally positive and Pope Francis ... for whatever reason ... still proceeded with Traditionis Custodes.  Andrea Grillo is not pleased with this turn of affairs. I suspect that the 'leaking' of the report is a symptom of a course correction.  Time will tell as this pontificate unfolds.  I am still curious to hear if the SSPX Superiour General will be invited to Rome this summer while the Pope reclaims the Castel Gandolfo.   That is my critical success indicator for whether or not Catholics can really consider the pontificate of Pope Francis (RIP) are truly an aberration of the past. Then we have the firing of John-Henry Westen from Life Site News.  I have no idea what happened to cause the board coup - - - as close a the vote was - he is now out of LFN.  There is...

News Roundup: May 13, 2026

 + JMJ Introduction I have set this article to post on May 13th, the anniversary of the first of six apparitions of the Blessed Virgin Mary at Fatima. Fatima while a historical fact, still seems to point to the future.  Has the consecration been done according to her wishes?  Will another Pope do it again in the face of a world going mad and slipping into the same conditions that fostered two great wars? I don't know.  But I pray that the message of Fatima to repent and do penance is heard in the hearts of Catholics every where.  We carry the light to the world and need to illuminate the 'The Way'. The Catholic Church Obviously, the death of Pope Francis I and the election of Pope Leo XIV is a major development in the Catholic Church and the World. Just what the immediate outcomes of these two events will take some time.  I strongly suspect that there will be no calls of Santo Subito for Pope Francis.  If there is and if they do canonize Pope Francis ....

Rome,the SSPX and this time of Crisis - Updated

+ JMJ Obviously there's lots of events right now. First we have the April 1st - I almost thought it was April Fools - meeting between Pope Francis and Bishop Fellay.  Nothing really news worthy as this is a natural progression as Rome appears to be considering fulfilling Archbishop Lefebvre's wish to 'accept us as we are'. Second we have the April 8th publication of what will be a verbose exhortation of the Synod of the Family. I'm willing to bet that the Pope will give with one hand (unilateral regularization of SSPX) and take with the other (ambiguous document that opens the flood gates of sin further). Much to pray for. P^3

A Look Back: A short history of the SSPX

 + JMJ  I started a timeline a while back but never finished it.  Fortunately, here's one that brings us up to 1994!!! P^3 http://archives.sspx.org/SSPX_FAQs/a_short_history_of_the_sspx-part-1.htm   A short history of the SSPX A presentation given by Fr. Ramon Angles in Kansas City, MO, on the 25th Anniversary of the founding of the SSPX and reprinted from the January 1996 issue of The Angelus . Part 1 The history of the Society of St. Pius X begins, of course, in the mind of God. But do not believe that its temporal origin is to be found solely at the time of the post-conciliar crisis. The Society of St. Pius X was made possible ...