While Rome Burns ...

JMJ

Actually, one could say 'While the Church burns ...'.

Fr. Carota has a very compelling article (link) that brings to light a couple of interesting elements.

The Church is in theological, moral and structural collapse and it is mostly as a result of actions taken by forces within the Church.

Hence why it is called a crisis:

What is interesting is that Fr. Carota has echoed something that I mentioned a few years ago: The future of the Church is in the Traditionalists.

Why?

Because they are the anti-thesis to the path that the Church is walking.

They are NOT collapsing in a Theological, Structural, or Moral sense. As a whole, CARA discovered that those religious communities are attracting young vocations.

In personal discussion, one research mentioned to me that the attrition rates between 'Traditional' and 'Modern' seminaries are the same. The difference is that more men enter the 'Traditional' seminaries.

The question is why?

The answer is simple, the Traditional Culture fosters and supports a generosity of spirit that the modern culture does not.

Why else would 'Traditionalist' cultures have the same ratio of ordinations to faithful? Because they are an example of what the Church Culture was, should be and will be again.

That also explains why it is being attacked by the hierarchy.

There are a number of reasons (some conspiratorial) that could be presented ... such as:

'They' are fostering the complete collapse of the priesthood (and religious life in general) in order to push:

Married Priests
Priestesses
Lay Priests and Priestesses

'They' are fostering the complete inversion of morals in order to attract

Divorced and 'Remarried' back into the Church
Same-Sex Couples
Co-habitating Couples

and ...

The Traditional orders undermine their vision of what the Church should be.

As one Catholic stated after I delivered a talk on the cultural aspects of Sacred Music and concluded with 5 minutes of Gregorian Chant:

I am offended. ... I am excluded from participating ... It is exclusive ... I don't speak latin ...

The 'Church' is theologically, structurally, and morally collapsing around the vibrant Traditional Orders and this contradiction destroys the world view of 'those' in charge.

Ergo: It cannot and will not be tolerated. Otherwise 'their' agenda will be thwarted.

And thwarted it will be ... the 'Trads' are not going away. We've been hunted and persecuted since the Council.

Why would we stop now?

All we have to do is adhere to Catholic principles and we will be safe.

When the Pope issues a legitimate command, it is sinful to disobey.

The SSPX is simply waiting for that legitimate command. Until it is issued, we simply pray and continue to preserve that which was handed down to us.

P^3

While Rome Burns, Pope and Bishpos Attack the Latin Mass and Traditional Orders - Fr. Peter Carota

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A Look Back: A short history of the SSPX

+ JMJ I started a timeline a while back but never finished it. Fortunately, here's one that brings us up to 1994!!! P^3 http://archives.sspx.org/SSPX_FAQs/a_short_history_of_the_sspx-part-1.htm A short history of the SSPX A presentation given by Fr. Ramon Angles in Kansas City, MO, on the 25th Anniversary of the founding of the SSPX and reprinted from the January 1996 issue of The Angelus . Part 1 The history of the Society of St. Pius X begins, of course, in the mind of God. But do not believe that its temporal origin is to be found solely at the time of the post-conciliar crisis. The Society of St. Pius X was made possible ...

Hermeneutic of the Hermeneutic of Continuity - sspx.org

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SSPX and the Resistance - A Comparison Of Ecclesiology

Shining the light of Church Teaching on the doctrinal positions of the SSPX and the Resistance. Principles are guides used to aid in decision making. It stands to reason that bad principles will lead to bad decisions. The recent interactions between Rome and the SSPX has challenged a number of closely held cultural assumptions of people in both sides of the disagreement. This has resulted in cultural skirmishes in both Rome and the SSPX. Since it is the smaller of the two, the skirmishes have been more evident within the SSPX. The cultural fault-line that Bishop Fellay crossed appears to be linked to two points of Catholic Doctrine: Ecclesiology and Obedience. The cultural difference of view points is strong enough that it has resulted in the expulsion of a number of members. It should also be noted that some other priests expelled since the beginning of the latest interactions (starting in 2000) held the same view points and have joined with the l...

Morning and Evening and other sundry Prayers

+ JMJ Along the theme of P^3 (Prayer, Penance, Patience), and for my own reference ... here is a collection of Morning and Evening prayers from the Ideal Daily Missal along with some additional prayers. In this crisis of the Church, I do not think it is possible to do too much prayer, penance and have patience. P^3

Dogmas of the Catholic Faith (de fide) - Expanded Listing: Answer for Reader

+ JMJ A reader asked the following question in the 2015 version of the article on the Dogmas of the Catholic Faith (link) : 117: "In the state of fallen nature it is morally impossible for man without Supernatural Revelation, to know easily, with absolute certainty and without admixture of error, all religious and moral truths of the natural order." Where can you find this in the documents of the Church? ( Link to comment ) Here's the reference from Ott: The citation that Ott provided was Denzinger 1786 and the source document is Dogmatic Consitution Concerning the Faith from the First Vatican Council (Papal Encyclicals - link) : Chapter 2 On Revelation, Article 3: It is indeed thanks to this divine revelation , that those matters concerning God, which are not of themselves beyond the scope of human reason, can, even in the present state of the human race, be known by everyone, without difficulty, with firm certitude and with no intermingling of error. Here's ...

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