The Chastisement of the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate (FFI) - Part 5 What is life like for the FFI?

The Chastisement of the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate (FFI) - Part 5 What is life like for the FFI? - Tantamergo

Tantamergo has reblogged an article / translation by Eponymous Flower about life in the FFI at this point in time.

Original Article

The remnant also has been keeping pace with the events with the FFI.

The constraints being placed on the FFI, as noted by a number of people, seem unjust in the light of the issues with a variety of other organizations that are heterodox (ie heretical).

Be that as it may, the chastisement of the FFI will undoubtedly continue for some time. Their reaction to the chastisement is at once both edifying and disconcerting.

If it edifying because they are suffering, by and large, silently.

It is disconcerting because the ferocity of the chastisement seems completely out of proportion to what they are to the life of the Church. It seems that they should fight back against the injustice, indeed some I feel want to see them put up a fight.

But that is a hard and difficult path, similar to walking on a knife's edge, as I believe the SSPX knows.

From an organizational culture point of view, I think we now have enough background to start to develop some ideas as to where this is going to lead.

Those who are adamant about the principles involved concerning the Tridentine Mass, the documents of Vatican II, and the teachings of the Church will leave the FFI. Where they find a home is within the Providence of God.

Those who are adamant about the counter principles will remain in the new FFI.

Those who desire to stand by their founder will do so by staying within the FFI as long as possible and suffer the consequences in this life and, I believe, a reward in the next.

Those to whom the principles at stake are unimportant (I am assuming that there are some since this is a human organization) will compromise and sign the declaration.

For the first and third groups, it is a hard path. For the middle, it is what they desired. For the last, there is one word: Sad.

I've read that culture changes take, on average, 7 years in the corporate world. How fast the FFI changes (unless the cultural siege is lifted) will depend on how deep their cultural roots run and whether or not those roots are based on the anti-thesis of the declaration that they are being forced to make concerning the New Mass and Vatican II.

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