War: Catholic Church

JMJ

In my opinion (IMO)...

The Catholic Church has, since the Second Vatican Council, been in a civil war between no less than four groups of Catholics: Neo-Modernists, Liberals, Conservatives and Traditionalists.

The difference between the Neo-Modernists and Liberals is practically indistinguishable. Both want to change Church Doctrine to make it something other than it is. Like the heresies of the past, instead of leaving the Church and splitting off ... they want to mutate the Catholic Church into something else.

While normally nice, when confronted with anything resembling pre-conciliar thinking, doctrine or liturgy the knives come out.

The only, and I'm serious, the only real reprieve to this war was a momentary cease-fire created by Pope Benedict XVI and ended by Pope Francis I. Pope John Paul II's 1982 indult and the Ecclesei Dei communities had to tow a very narrow line to avoid being noticed by the internal enemies of the Church (again IMO).

What does this mean for the future?

One way this civil war could end is for a strongly Catholic Pope to be elected and a mass rebellion against this Pope. The end result will be a sundering of the Catholic Church by another schism, perhaps similar to the Western Schism (link). Then the schismatic branch, lacking the anchor of the Catholic Church, will begin its death spiral of theological evolution, splinter, rinse and repeat.

There are of course other ways, but with human foibles, I am nearing the conclusion that the Modernists and Liberals will be unable to accept a re-aligning of the Catholic Church with its perennial doctrines. The result will be the rejection of the elected Pope and the formation of, for them, the True Catholic Church.

Sound familiar? I believe the Liberals and Modernists will, in the end, duplicate the response of the Sedevacantists, declare that the new and validly elected Pope had fallen from the Papacy due to the rejection of the Spirit of the Second Vatican Council. Then they will, like other Sedevacantists, form a counter conclave and elect one of their own number.

Pope Benedict XVI said it once, that we may have to be content with a smaller Catholic Church.

Rest assured that a Catholic Church finally purged of the Modernists and Liberals will be smaller.

Smaller and Catholic.

P^3

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