War: Catholic Church

JMJ

In my opinion (IMO)...

The Catholic Church has, since the Second Vatican Council, been in a civil war between no less than four groups of Catholics: Neo-Modernists, Liberals, Conservatives and Traditionalists.

The difference between the Neo-Modernists and Liberals is practically indistinguishable. Both want to change Church Doctrine to make it something other than it is. Like the heresies of the past, instead of leaving the Church and splitting off ... they want to mutate the Catholic Church into something else.

While normally nice, when confronted with anything resembling pre-conciliar thinking, doctrine or liturgy the knives come out.

The only, and I'm serious, the only real reprieve to this war was a momentary cease-fire created by Pope Benedict XVI and ended by Pope Francis I. Pope John Paul II's 1982 indult and the Ecclesei Dei communities had to tow a very narrow line to avoid being noticed by the internal enemies of the Church (again IMO).

What does this mean for the future?

One way this civil war could end is for a strongly Catholic Pope to be elected and a mass rebellion against this Pope. The end result will be a sundering of the Catholic Church by another schism, perhaps similar to the Western Schism (link). Then the schismatic branch, lacking the anchor of the Catholic Church, will begin its death spiral of theological evolution, splinter, rinse and repeat.

There are of course other ways, but with human foibles, I am nearing the conclusion that the Modernists and Liberals will be unable to accept a re-aligning of the Catholic Church with its perennial doctrines. The result will be the rejection of the elected Pope and the formation of, for them, the True Catholic Church.

Sound familiar? I believe the Liberals and Modernists will, in the end, duplicate the response of the Sedevacantists, declare that the new and validly elected Pope had fallen from the Papacy due to the rejection of the Spirit of the Second Vatican Council. Then they will, like other Sedevacantists, form a counter conclave and elect one of their own number.

Pope Benedict XVI said it once, that we may have to be content with a smaller Catholic Church.

Rest assured that a Catholic Church finally purged of the Modernists and Liberals will be smaller.

Smaller and Catholic.

P^3

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Hermeneutic of the Hermeneutic of Continuity - sspx.org

+ JMJ Since I'm looking at the 'four things', I thought this article would be good. Unfortunately, with the new SSPX.org website, I've been unable to locate the original article. This is a copy the I emailed to myself. This is an article that, I believe, was written in response to a conference given by Msgr. Pozzo. P^3

Rome,the SSPX and this time of Crisis - Updated

+ JMJ Obviously there's lots of events right now. First we have the April 1st - I almost thought it was April Fools - meeting between Pope Francis and Bishop Fellay. Nothing really news worthy as this is a natural progression as Rome appears to be considering fulfilling Archbishop Lefebvre's wish to 'accept us as we are'. Second we have the April 8th publication of what will be a verbose exhortation of the Synod of the Family. I'm willing to bet that the Pope will give with one hand (unilateral regularization of SSPX) and take with the other (ambiguous document that opens the flood gates of sin further). Much to pray for. P^3

SSPX and the Resistance - A Comparison Of Ecclesiology

Shining the light of Church Teaching on the doctrinal positions of the SSPX and the Resistance. Principles are guides used to aid in decision making. It stands to reason that bad principles will lead to bad decisions. The recent interactions between Rome and the SSPX has challenged a number of closely held cultural assumptions of people in both sides of the disagreement. This has resulted in cultural skirmishes in both Rome and the SSPX. Since it is the smaller of the two, the skirmishes have been more evident within the SSPX. The cultural fault-line that Bishop Fellay crossed appears to be linked to two points of Catholic Doctrine: Ecclesiology and Obedience. The cultural difference of view points is strong enough that it has resulted in the expulsion of a number of members. It should also be noted that some other priests expelled since the beginning of the latest interactions (starting in 2000) held the same view points and have joined with the l...

Validity of new rite of episcopal consecrations - Courtesy of SSPX.org

+ JMJ In the blogosphere there are number of responses to this crisis in the Catholic Church that lead to conclusions that run counter to Catholic Doctrine and Dogmas - if taken to their logical conclusion. The validity of the New Rite of Episcopal consecrations is one such hotspot within more extreme sections of the 'traditionalist' culture. Validity of new rite of episcopal consecrations Courtesy of SSPX.org Why the new rite of episcopal consecration is valid Introduction This comprehensive study was compiled to settle a debate that has been circulating in traditional Catholic circles. Some writers have examined the new rite of episcopal consecration and concluded that it must be invalid. Since this would cause manifest problems if it were true and due to the heightened awareness of such a theory, we present a study of this question concluding that it is valid. Following the Council, in 1968 a new rite for the ordination of bishops was promulg...

Comparision of the Tridentine, Cranmer and Novus Ordo Masses

+ JMJ I downloaded the comparison that was linked in the previous article on the mass (here) . ... a very good reference! P^3 From: Whispers of Restoration (available at this link) . CHARTING LITURGICAL CHANGE Comparing the 1962 Ordinary of the Roman Mass to changes made during the Anglican Schism; Compared in turn to changes adopted in the creation of Pope Paul VI’s Mass in 1969 The chart on the reverse is a concise comparison of certain ritual differences between three historical rites for the celebration of the Catholic Mass Vetus Ordo: “Old Order,” the Roman Rite of Mass as contained in the 1962 Missal, often referred to as the “Traditional Latin Mass.”The Ordinary of this Mass is that of Pope St. Pius V (1570) following the Council of Trent (1545-63), hence the occasional moniker “Tridentine Mass.” However, Trent only consolidated and codified the Roman Rite already in use at that time; its essential form dates to Pope St. Gregory the Great (+604), in whose time the R...

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