War: SSPX

JMJ

We seem to be in transition from the persecution of the SSPX and other faithful Catholics to a civil war within the Catholic Church i.e. a true schism.

Several Bishops, Priests and Dioceses have rejected outright Fiducia Supplicans (link). This, in my opinion (IMO), is a new inflection point on the way to what will amount to an civil war within the Catholic Church.

Pope Francis had spent the past ten years putting the final touches on the fault-lines within the Church and this may be the final blow that actually awakens Our Lord sleeping in the bow of the Barque of St. Peter. That is something that we need to remember, Our Lord is with his Church, even on its way to Calvary.

So, what is about to happen is that, IMO, faithful Catholics will find themselves in the same situation as the SSPX. Persecuted and fighting for the heart of the Catholic Church.

The history of the SSPX provides a microcosm of what we might expect to happen in the Catholic Church during a 'civil war'.

There will be a number of groups that rally behind the Pope to clean the stench of heresy from the Church. Just like those that worked with Archbishop Lefebvre in the early days and continued to work with the SSPX in the decades after his death. I suspect that the numbers will be small, but their support for the Pope and fervour will be steadfast.

Then there will be the Neo Sede-Vacantists comprised of the modernists and liberals.

They will separate themselves from the Church because their concept of the Church is so foreign to reality, that they won't be able to accept that the series of bad popes since V2 were part of the problem and not the solution. As the new strong Pope works to right the wrongs of the past fifty plus years, those remaining modernists or liberals will find it hard to believe that the Catholic Church actually teaches let alone believes that it is the only Church of Jesus Christ.

No offence to my friends in the 'resistance', but I don't see any real analogue in this situation for the 'resistance'. The reason being that a loose collection of 'resistors' with their one or two priests, won't simply be able to have any sizeable impact on the life of the Church any more than the "Old Catholics"(link) has an impact on the Catholic Church after over a hundred year. Bishop Williamson and his cohort of junior bishops as well as Father / Bishop Pfeiffer will be long dead and judged before the impact of their actions dwindle into nothing.

So - the Faithful Catholics will need to steel themselves for a battle when their former church buildings are occupied by the Neos (modernists and liberals).

So in a way the SSPX and to a lesser amount the FSSP, ICK, IBP, et al will (IMO) serve as veterans.

Of course there are other ways in which this could go ... but I am personally convinced that the SSPX will have some small effect on the final outcome of this crisis. The reason is simple project management, a adjustment made early in the the course of events has a far greater impact at the end of the series.

P^3

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