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A Way Forward ... Why Tradical is writing these annoying articles (originally posted on angelqueen.org)


This was originally posted on angelqueen.org and encapsulates some of my motivations for writing these articles.

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Some forum members have been questioning my motivations for writing the articles focused the organizational culture issues surrounding this crisis in the Church.



gpmtrad went as far as to write:
“… You SOUND like a conciliarist ( Achtung! Achtung! Whatever the Vatican II Panzer Korps commands – even if out of the mouth of a heretic! – MUST BE !!! Macht schnell!!! )…:

(I admit that I looked up Macht schnell)

“… Save yourself from years of confusion and instead of using conciliarist jargon and diplo-speak, familiarize yourself with the polemics of St. Jerome and St. John Chrysostum ( especially read his work against the judaizers – men in his day who did EXACTLY the same thing as top Vatican officials have been pulling for decades! ) and get yourself a subscription to Catholic Family News…”

gpmtrad did go on to say “Despite that, I think you’re a gentleman.”

My motivation is simple:
Complaining about what is happening in the Church identifies the evil but does not help in trying to resolve it. Further, what worked in one context (St. Jerome and St. John Chrysostum) will not necessarily work in today’s context (sad but true).

Having a deeper understanding of why a non-traditionalist remains in their state is important. They are not all at the same level. Some intuitively understand that suppressing expressions of the Faith (as the Ukranian Catholic Bishops did by removing the filioque from the creed) is bad. Others are blind to this, and see nothing wrong with receiving Holy Communion in their hands and then placing their hands in their pockets etc. Sacrilege has little or no meaning for some of them. It is a scary warped understanding of the Faith. I wish it were only Protestant but it is a hybrid, of truth and heresy that looks and tastes like Catholicism to non-trads but is laced with poison.

I digress …

Not only am I trying to come to a deeper understanding of the motivations of non-traditionalists in a general sense, I am trying to chart a path that will help us teach them to think like Traditional Catholics – without the bitterness that I have witnessed in some.

This bitterness comes from decades of witnessing and experiencing the worst of atrocities against the Church & Faith by men and women who objectively I would label as traitors. I wish that bitterness on no one, since it is not Catholic, causes blindness and leads a person outside the Church. I’m looking for a way to teach the lessons that traditionalists have learned without teaching them a bitter disregard for authority, without leading them through the formalism and rigorism that existed prior to the illustrious council, without teaching them to hate.

I am looking for a way forward to a truly Catholic future.

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