Skip to main content

What can we do???

+
JMJ

So for those with eyes to see the Catholic Church is in a crisis of Faith and it began at the top (Paul VI???) and will end at the top (Pope ?????? the ??).

The question is what can / should we do?  I am of course thinking primarily of the Laity, but my thinking also applies to the professed.

What I see as a high probability is that Rome will finally drop the mantra sometime in the next 3 to 5 years.

Whether it is under Pope Francis the Last or some other Pontiff doesn't really matter.



I see it as inevitable as God is Just, that eventually the conditions will be ripe for the heresy to burn itself out and the rebuilding to begin.

The question that we need to think about now, as Traditional Catholics, is how to receive the refugees from the Church (I'm optimistic that we will see Trad Mass centres swell by 10-15%) and minimize the trauma and cultural influence that they will have on the established communities.

This is not a simple thing.

Culturally, those Catholics who will seek refuge in the SSPX and other Traditionalist communities, will have a mix of cultural elements, some aligned with Traditionalism, some that are not.

It is unavoidable that a Modern Catholic will have absorbed a number of the protestant factors that permeate the atmosphere within the 'mainstream' Church.

It is also unavoidable that some Traditional Catholics will have acquired habits and biases that are a result of having been persecuted for 40+ years.

When these two cultures are thrown together there is going to be a reaction.

For example ...

Most Modern Catholics will find the Traditional Mass, Communion on the Tongue and Kneeling, long periods of silence, uncomfortably different.

Traditional Catholics, especially the veterans, will be uncomfortable with the manner of dress of the refugees, their hair, ... basically any externals.

These are called Artifacts.


Artifact express values and values underlying assumptions.  As mentioned earlier, if an assumption is transgressed, as it is an element of the subconscious, the it will evoke an emotional response. The more firmly established an assumption, generally the stronger an emotional response.

As a result of years of persecution, in my experience, Traditionalist Catholics generally have a stronger set of assumptions than Modern Catholics.  Hence the burden will rest upon the Trads to practice patience and forbearance.

It will take time for the newcomers to adjust, in some cases it will take as long as a year for the Traditional Catholic environment to help them to adjust.

What can we do?

First, be a friend and help them understand why some things are the way they are - and if you don't know find out.

The first thing will be the modes of dress and this is more stunning for the ladies than the men.

I believe the second will be norms of behaviour during Mass etc.

Lastly, be truly charitable, grateful for what you've received and generous in sharing it.

P^3






Comments

Popular posts from this blog

Comparision of the Tridentine, Cranmer and Novus Ordo Masses

+ JMJ I downloaded the comparison that was linked in the previous article on the mass (here) . ... a very good reference! P^3 From: Whispers of Restoration (available at this link) . CHARTING LITURGICAL CHANGE Comparing the 1962 Ordinary of the Roman Mass to changes made during the Anglican Schism; Compared in turn to changes adopted in the creation of Pope Paul VI’s Mass in 1969 The chart on the reverse is a concise comparison of certain ritual differences between three historical rites for the celebration of the Catholic Mass Vetus Ordo: “Old Order,” the Roman Rite of Mass as contained in the 1962 Missal, often referred to as the “Traditional Latin Mass.”The Ordinary of this Mass is that of Pope St. Pius V (1570) following the Council of Trent (1545-63), hence the occasional moniker “Tridentine Mass.” However, Trent only consolidated and codified the Roman Rite already in use at that time; its essential form dates to Pope St. Gregory the Great (+604), in whose time the R...

SSPX and the Resistance - A Comparison Of Ecclesiology

Shining the light of Church Teaching on the doctrinal positions of the SSPX and the Resistance. Principles are guides used to aid in decision making.  It stands to reason that bad principles will lead to bad decisions. The recent interactions between Rome and the SSPX has challenged a number of closely held cultural assumptions of people in both sides of the disagreement. This has resulted in cultural skirmishes in both Rome and the SSPX. Since it is the smaller of the two, the skirmishes have been more evident within the SSPX.  The cultural fault-line that Bishop Fellay crossed appears to be linked to two points of Catholic Doctrine: Ecclesiology and Obedience.  The cultural difference of view points is strong enough that it has resulted in the expulsion of a number of members.  It should also be noted that some other priests expelled since the beginning of the latest interactions (starting in 2000) held the same view points and have joined with the l...

If Pope Francis is bad - what about Pope St. John Paul II et al?

+ JMJ So here we are on the apparent cusp of yet another post conciliar Papal canonization. This time we have Pope's John-Paul I and Paul VI canonizations to 'look forward' to. This follows, obviously, on the heels of Pope St. John Paul II's canonization? So the first question that I usually encounter is: How is it possible, keeping in mind the doctrine on infallibility of canonizations (note doctrine not dogma), that Pope St. John Paul II is a Saint? First, what does it mean???  According to the doctrine of dogmatic facts - it is the universal opinion of Theologians that canonizations are infallible.  It means that they enjoy the beatific vision.  ... that's it.  That is the doctrine and it is at the level of universal opinion of theologians.  It is called a 'dogmatic fact'. That they made mistakes is obvious.  That the miracles seem to not be very miraculous is also a bit of an issue. Here's something to consider: The rush that surrou...

Spiritual Journey Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre - Extracts

+ JMJ I have posted these two chapters to provide context for the quote of: It is, therefore, a strict duty for every priest wanting to remain Catholic to separate himself from this Conciliar Church for as long as it does not rediscover the Tradition of the Church and of the Catholic Faith. P^3 Courtesy of SSPX.ca Chapter II The Perfections of God We ought to remember during this entire contemplation of God that we must apply all that is said of God to Our Lord Jesus Christ, Who is God. We cannot separate Jesus Christ from God. We cannot separate the Christian religion from Jesus Christ, Who is God, and we must affirm and believe that only the Catholic religion is the Christian religion. These affirmations have, as a result, inescapable conclusions that no ecclesiastic authority can contest: outside of Jesus Christ and the Catholic religion, that is, outsi...

Dogmas of the Catholic Faith (de fide) - Expanded Listing: Answer for Reader

 + JMJ  A reader asked the following question in the 2015 version of the article on the Dogmas of the Catholic Faith (link) : 117: "In the state of fallen nature it is morally impossible for man without Supernatural Revelation, to know easily, with absolute certainty and without admixture of error, all religious and moral truths of the natural order." Where can you find this in the documents of the Church? ( Link to comment )  Here's the reference from Ott: The citation that Ott provided was Denzinger 1786 and the source document is Dogmatic Consitution Concerning the Faith from the First Vatican Council (Papal Encyclicals - link) : Chapter 2 On Revelation, Article 3: It is indeed thanks to this divine revelation , that those matters concerning God, which are not of themselves beyond the scope of human reason, can, even in the present state of the human race, be known by everyone, without difficulty, with firm certitude and with no intermingling of error. Here's ...