Sunday, August 13, 2017

The SSPX and Marriages

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JMJ

There are two sacraments that require jurisdiction to be valid: Marriage and Confession.

In this conflict between Rome and the SSPX, only Rome has compromised.

Rome has:

  1. Conceded that the Tridentine Mass was never abrogated
  2. Lifted the 'excommunications'
  3. Granted jurisdiction for confessions
  4. Granted the bishops the authorization to grant jurisdiction for marriages.
It is this latest Roman concession that is causing some people angst.

As Rome makes concessions we need to keep a balance and read exactly what it says.  Do we hope for a full vindication of the fight of Traditional Catholics for the last 50 years - absolutely. 

Will it happen that way - probably not. It took a hundred years for the Church to stamp out Arianism, the problems in the Church after Trent took at least 50 years.

We haven't even hit the end of the first phase.

So don't get angry with the latest shenanigans of Pope Francis et al.  

Get even: Pray for them!


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Courtesy of FSSPX.NEWS

Saturday, August 12, 2017

Re Blog: Yes Sally, Pope Francis IS the Pope and is in great need of our prayers!

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As a Traditional Catholic I find it ironic that I'm usually the one talking Modern Catholics off the sedevacantist ledge.

Recently, Louie Verrecchio has posted an article by a Fr. Campo, that is asserting that the abdication was forced and therefore invalid ... of something to that effect.

Sadly, the electrons spilled over this issue are in vain.

Here's a quick summary of the doctrine on Dogmatic Facts:

Now the point is this:
We want to believe that Pope Francis is not the Pope, because he is doing such a bad job.

However, we know that he is because of the doctrine of dogmatic facts.

Any action that we 'believe' that would invalidate the election is proved wrong by the acceptance of a newly elected Pope by all the Bishops and by extension the whole Catholic Church.

Pope Francis was accepted by the Bishops in Union with Rome, ergo - we have the assurance of the doctrine that he was validly elected.



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PS.Now if the Church should determine that Pope Francis was invalidly elected, they will have to amend the doctrine of Dogmatic Facts as it pertains to the election of a Pope.

But until that hypothetical even occurs - we have the rely upon the present document.

Friday, August 11, 2017

Is the Pope More Popular on Twitter Than in St. Peter’s Square? - FSSPX.NEWS (DICI)

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As the Pope's personality cult collapses, I predict he will become more and more isolated.  He will see enemies everywhere until ... he makes a big decision and takes a big action.

Pray that he makes the RIGHT decision and makes the RIGHT action.


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Courtesy of FSSPX.NEWS

Wednesday, August 9, 2017

A Look Back: France: Press conference of Bishop Fellay to the journalists for religious information

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JMJ

Around 2002 Bishop Fellay said that things will become more difficult as the SSPX and Rome near an agreement.

He was right!

One good point is the clarity that is provided - such as the state of necessity!


"(The terms used will be rather words like "regularization of a situation" because, actually, in this respect), there is the problem to the consecrations themselves, which are censured by Rome ; on our part, we try to explain that the censure does not apply because of the circumstances, and, let us say, on the basis of canon law. Rome will say or has attempted to say through the Pontifical Council for the Interpretation of Laws that our argument, i.e. the argument of necessity, was not valid in that case. To express things more pointedly, let us say that there is a code, well a canon of the new Code of Canon Law which says that if someone acts out of necessity, he does not fall under the law; and another canon says that if this necessity was purely subjective, i.e. if the necessity did not exist objectively but the person thought there was a necessity, well, he should not be punished with the maximum penalty foreseen by the law. These are the arguments we are using to say, on the one hand that we believe there is a necessity, and even an objective state of necessity; but, at least, that even if Rome does not want to acknowledge this objective state, there remains the subjective point of view; and consequently we should not be punished with the maximum penalty. There was a thesis on this subject, a master in Canon Law written on this theme, and it was received by the Gregorian University. Then the Pontifical Council for the Interpretation of Laws intervened to say that, in this case, they could not speak of necessity because otherwise, of course, it introduced a principle of possible anarchy in the Church.
Nevertheless, and this is very interesting too, during the private audience with the pope, the pope re-used the argument saying: "You may not justify your activity by referring to a state of necessity" giving as explanation: "I am trying", he said, "to solve the problems", such were his very words. It is at the same time an avowal: it means that there are problems; if he tries to solve them, it is because the problems still exist. And a few minutes later, in his explanation, he himself said: "We should see if there is not a state of necessity in France and in Germany." This shows that after all our argument is not so bad. Well this was just a very small development to say that…
Bishop Fellay: He did not tell me, he did not say it. First I wondered why these two countries? Now this is a pure… it is a personal explanation. I think that the Holy Father, at that point, was referring to the liturgical problems and the opposition the freedom for the old Mass can meet in these two countries. I am not sure this is it, it is my attempt at an explanation. Because if I compare France and Germany with the other countries in the world, truly I, for my part, cannot see much difference. It is true that from the liturgical viewpoint in the United States, for instance, there is much more freedom, many more bishops, there are at least 150 dioceses where the Tridentine Mass is celebrated, it is called the Indult Mass, i.e. the bishop give the permission. But when we speak of a state of necessity, we consider something else. There is not only the liturgy, there is all the life of the Church, there is the teaching of the faith…




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Tuesday, August 8, 2017

A Look Back: References of State of Necessity

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Has Rome ever supported the SSPX's conclusion that a state of necessity exists?

We have the words of Pope Benedict XVI as related by Bishp Fellay from 2006:

Nevertheless, and this is very interesting too, during the private audience with the pope, the pope re-used the argument saying: "You may not justify your activity by referring to a state of necessity" giving as explanation: "I am trying", he said, "to solve the problems", such were his very words. It is at the same time an avowal: it means that there are problems; if he tries to solve them, it is because the problems still exist. And a few minutes later, in his explanation, he himself said: "We should see if there is not a state of necessity in France and in Germany." This shows that after all our argument is not so bad. Well this was just a very small development to say that…
Bishop Fellay: ... First I wondered why these two countries? Now this is a pure… it is a personal explanation. I think that the Holy Father, at that point, was referring to the liturgical problems and the opposition the freedom for the old Mass can meet in these two countries. I am not sure this is it, it is my attempt at an explanation. Because if I compare France and Germany with the other countries in the world, truly I, for my part, cannot see much difference. It is true that from the liturgical viewpoint in the United States, for instance, there is much more freedom, many more bishops, there are at least 150 dioceses where the Tridentine Mass is celebrated, it is called the Indult Mass, i.e. the bishop give the permission. But when we speak of a state of necessity, we consider something else. There is not only the liturgy, there is all the life of the Church, there is the teaching of the faith…
Source: Bishop Fellay Press Conference 2006

The symptoms of the state of necessity can  easily be found in the break down of discipline, liturgy and doctrine within the Church.

But to find the root cause we'd have to look deeper into the intentions of those perpetrating the state of necessity.

I suspect we would find Neo-Modernists and a bunch of other 'ists'.

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Sunday, August 6, 2017

Recent posts

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JMJ

Hi All,

Just a quick note that I was traveling for the past few days. Hence, I was using the android blogger feature - which is a little awkward.

That is the reason for the lack of formatting in some of the recent posts.

I have tried to correct them . . . hopefully I didn't miss anything.

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