The Resistance and the Church

JMJ

As I've stated at the start of the 'resistance' agitation, their disobedience is based on an erroneous belief of the constitution of the Church.

As the 'resistance' continues to splinter, the arguments that they hurl against each other provide an exposition of their thought.

Ecclesia Militans, the Toronto 'resistance' coordinator, has published a 'study' by Fr. Ortiz about Frs. Hewko and Pfeiffer's association with an Orthodox (in the schismatic sense) Bishop - whose orders appear to be questionable.

Ironically, the Fathers' (Pfeiffer, Hewko) association with Moran is worse than any association with the persons the same Fathers claim to combat ... Worse than to associate with Bp. Fellay and the neo-SSPX, who at least condemn ecumenism, but Moran has practices ecumenism most of his life by continually 'switching churches' ... Worse than to associate with the Sedevacantists, who err in declaring empty the See of Peter, but Moran, like all the Orthodox, denied the dogmat of the Pope's Primacy ... Worse than to associate with Novus Ordo people, who claim to belong to the Catholic Church, but Moran, most of his life, has lived comfortable as a Schismatic Orthodox. (Fr. Ortiz)

I see a lot of the document as a 'pot calling the kettle black' issue, but I am really interested in the underlined portion.

As I understand it, from the position of Fr. Ortiz, the 'Novus Ordo people' - ie Baptized Catholics, only 'claim to belong to the Catholic Church'.

This supports my assertion that the 'resistance' is slipping into a true schism with the belief that the organization united under Pope Francis is not the Catholic Church. This is simply and clearly wrong and a departure from the path of Archbishop Lefebvre (SSPX and the Resistance - A Comparison Of Ecclesiology and The Four Marks of the Church of Christ).

If they persist in separating themselves and refusing communion with 'Novus Ordo people' (what a label) then they are materially committing the sin of schism.

Now the really interesting part is the hate hate relationships that are evolving within the 'resistance'.

Kentucky (Fr. Pfeiffer / Hewko): Aligned with themselves and excluded from consecration of Dom Aquinas.
England (Bishop Williamson): Aligned with himself
England (Recusant): Aligned with Kentucky, rejecting Bishop Williamson.
Asia (Fr. Chazel): Aligned with Bishop Williamson et al.
Ecclesia Militans: Now aligned with Bishop Williamson et al.

I have no idea how many more splinters will occur, but they will because there is no binding authority. In essence they are traditional ecumenists.

P^3

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